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class=290354304-09022005>Bob,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=290354304-09022005> Glad you agree. Why would you need to weigh it
more than once? Just fill the tank (or install the largest battery pack) and
weigh it at the start of the contest. Since we're checking for MAX weight
wouldn't this be acceptable? Actually, if you look closely at the 5 kilo rule
that defines a "model" I believe it specifies that weight with a full tank of
fuel. Only the rules for pattern planes say otherwise. Actually, you wouldn't
give the "advantage" to the electrics, you would remove the handicap. Electrics
are weighed with the battery already. Doing it this way would eliminate more
problems than it would cause - I think.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com/"
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class=290354304-09022005> </SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf
Of </B>vicenterc@comcast.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:58
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org; discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Cc:</B> Bob
Richards<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [SPAM] Re: *SPAM* Re: Rules
Survey<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV>I don't know if this is important to consider. I think the reason
for 11lbs = 5 Kilos is that internationally the airplanes over that weight are
not considered model airplanes. This basic rule is used if you want to
use RC model airplane to break any record. If you want to
break a record using RC plane the first rule that applies is that weight has
to be below 5 Kilos = 11 lbs. I found this information when visiting the
AMA museum.</DIV>
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<DIV>Vince Bortone</DIV>
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<DIV>That is my feeling as well. The only downside is that the enforcement
would/could be more difficult. If the weight is with the tank empty, then
you can weigh it once at the beginning of the contest, verifying that
everything is present on the plane. If the weight is with fuel, you might
have to weigh before every flight.</DIV>
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<DIV>If the weight is ready-to-fly, then you would give some advantage back
to the electrics, justifiably so, IHMO.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob R.<BR><BR><B><I>John Pavlick <jpavlick@idseng.com></I></B>
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<DIV><SPAN class=660324801-09022005>Here's my 2C: Whatever the weight
limit is - make "Ready to fly" mean what is says: Full tank of fuel, fully
charged battery, etc. That way we won't argue about technicalities.
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