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color=#0000ff>Lance.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=152135303-22022005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Seeing you are in the part time composite 'business', why not
make some Nomex ( nest of bees...hehehe) cases? If anyone knows
someone in the airline maint business, used 747 floorboards which have had
stilleto's puncture the nomex can be made into superb cases. Alfre Pye, one
of our W/C team members did exactly that. Very light and very strong...ofcourse
getting the floorboards is an issue! A side issue was that he had to paint over
the beautiful carbon because the cases would have been stolen for the cases
alone- never mind the planes inside!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=152135303-22022005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Failing that, 4" sheets of Polystyrene foam can be cut to suit and
then glassed on the outside, or simply lined on the outside with 1/8 ply to
form the box. Another option is to build a proper roadcase 'ala'
musician/instrument style. All the hardware should be readily
available in the US (the stuff I buy here is ex US).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=152135303-22022005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>I'd
pick the floor board option if you can...surley Gray has something lying around,
no????</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN class=152135303-22022005></SPAN><FONT
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<DIV><BR><SPAN class=152135303-22022005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff
size=3>Tom</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=152135303-22022005> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Lance Van
Nostrand<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 22 February 2005 2:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: NATS<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Troy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Do you have a link to instructions for building
an appropriately strong box that is light enough not to lighten the
wallet?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=troy_newman@msn.com href="mailto:troy_newman@msn.com">Troy A.
Newman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 21, 2005 9:14
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NATS</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gordon,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You can ship it to the AMA. I know this has
been done before. Just contact them and work out the details. Steve Kaluf
has a new helper that is solely in charge of the Nationals. I forget the
name just now....but he can "catch" your models and they will be sitting
there ready.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Other options</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I flew back to North Carolina a few times
before Jenny and I were married. I found an airline that had a direct flight
to Charlotte from Denver. I then shipped my model with them Air Cargo. Costs
were down and the model would arrive in short order. This was not on my
flight but a few days before. I would tell them to hold for pickup on such
and such a day. When I arrived we drove around to the Cargo side of the
terminal...In this case is was US Airways. Picked up the models and took
them to the contest. On return did the same thing and shipped them
back....in both cases the models arrived about the time if not before my
non-direct flight landed in Denver. SO it was drive to the Cargo area and
pick up the package. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This was perfect and would work for you flying
into Indy as you would probably rent a van anyways. Check with the Airline
as this was pre-9/11 but they have the details worked out and should get it
done for you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shipping as Oversized bag was
expensive....about $150 per box each way. The Cargo freight rate was about
$75-90 for both boxes and was based solely on its weight about 80lbs in wood
boxes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way these boxes were way too big for
UPS....and FedEx ground was the only other option and was about $200 each
way for ground 5 day delivery.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Troy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=GAA@owt.com href="mailto:GAA@owt.com">Gordon Anderson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 21, 2005 8:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> NATS</DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I'm thinking about attending the NATS this
year. If I do I would like to fly and ship my model. Can anyone tell me
their experiences shipping their models? Checking it as baggage on the
airplane seems problematic. If I ship it, can I have it held for pick up
some place? Are there local hobby shops where I can get fuel and supplies
if I need them?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Can you guys give me some advice please?
It’s a 2200 mile drive so I'm favoring flying.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">--Gordon</FONT>
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