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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>5.5Kg or by my calculations 12 pounds 1+ ounce is
fine for glow with fuel and electric with batteries. If that levels the playing
field, if it needs leveling, those are numbers I can live with. In fact at 12
pounds, a conventional glass/foam/balsa/ply large 2 meter plane ( like the EMC )
can be built with electric power and make weight. But I wonder do we really need
to mess with the weight issue ?? There was a time I was all for raising the 5Kg
limit, not so anymore. Although the prospect of building an E power EMC is
enticing. The real issue is do we ( USA AMA ) continue to follow FAI should
they adopt an absurd rule that obsoletes all our toys overnight ??? I hope not.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean Pappas</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: FAI Weight Thread</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=768121222-23022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Ed,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=768121222-23022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>OK,
so you agree. 5.5 Kg should be fine, no?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><A
href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">d.pappas@kodeos.com</A></FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed
Miller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:39 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: FAI Weight
Thread<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>5Kg including fuel for glow planes will
eliminate 2 of the 3 pattern ships now I have, including my newest 2M ship
as I doubt I can fly the Master's schedule on 7 ounces of fuel. Should it
happen I guess I'll just sport fly my planes and another NSRCA member and
pattern flyer will be lost. I suspect over 90% of existing glow ships would
now be technically illegal. If we keep screwing with rules that outdate or
make planes overnight illegal, pattern will be a very, very small crowd in a
very short time. I certainly don't care for the thought that my substantial
$$ and time investment could be wiped out by a rule that accomplishes what
??? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean
Pappas</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 23, 2005
9:27 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: FAI Weight Thread</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=754262214-23022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Hi Bob,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=754262214-23022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Generally, the desireability of a quieter event is recognized.
E-power suffers from a definition problem: we weigh without fuel, but with
batteries. A change to "ready for takeoff" will even the playing field ...
maybe even tilt it E-ward. Do you kake the present day ships pass a 5 Kg
standard with fuel, or do you give everyone an additonal 1/2 Kg for fuel
and or battery.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=754262214-23022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=754262214-23022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>While my druthers would be to make everyone meet 5Kg wet/batteried,
I suspect that there would be resistance to making existing legal
airplanes suddenly illegal. That's where 5.5 Kg might come from. A total
removal of the weight limit is exceedingly unlikely. Has anyone spoken to
Chris Lakin or Ron Chidgey, lately?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=754262214-23022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=754262214-23022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards to All,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
class=754262214-23022005> <FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Bob Pastorello<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 22, 2005
9:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA<BR><B>Subject:</B> FAI Weight
Thread<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Over on RCU - apparently some Europeans are
under the impression that the FAI will consider a proposal to either
remove the weight limit, or significantly raise it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anybody know what's up with
that?</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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