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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Vince:<BR><BR>The idea is that if you miss the
maneuver as a judge, you can't assume any score, so by marking "N.O." you are
agreeing to allow the scoring people to average the scores of the other judges
on the line, and apply that average to your score sheet....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> ; <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=rcaerobob@cox.net
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:18
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: FAI Weight Thread</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob,</DIV>
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<DIV>I think you are right. It is not in the rulebook. However, if
a judge for any reason can not see the manuever and gives NO of OI is not a
zero. I think they just repeat the score of the other judge. Am I
right?</DIV>
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<DIV>Vince</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>THat "Not Observed" thing is NOT in any AMA
rulebook. I had this discussion/debate with some pretty high-power
dudes last season.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> It ain't in
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
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<A title=jpavlick@idseng.com href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">John
Pavlick</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 23, 2005
8:54 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=270544602-24022005>As long as you don't
inhale... Hey - that got pres. Clinton off the
hook. Along those lines of thinking - why do maneuvers that
judges don't see get scored as "N.O." or 0. I thought every maneuver
started as a 10, and got downgraded due to "observed" imperfections. If
you didn't see it - how can you downgrade it to a 0? </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR> </FONT>
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Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>tomc@buyrc.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:45
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So, based on
the info in this thread, I guess it is legal to remove the battery
before weighing a non-electric plane. That would solve our
problems.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Wayne
Galligan<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:38 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'll bet there
are more pattern planes out there over 11lbs then most would
admit. So if you don't go to the Nats what should it matter? I
haven't seen the weight/2 meter rule enforced yet at a contest other
then the NATS. I'll be one to fess up that I (had) an 11+lb
guppy. I am working diligently to get it under 11lbs ONLY
because there is some faint POSSIBILITY that I MIGHT get to go to the
NATS this year. AND it flies better
lighter.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: FAI
Weight Thread</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In a message
dated 2/23/2005 6:50:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A
href="mailto:jivey61@bellsouth.net">jivey61@bellsouth.net</A>
writes:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ken<BR>By
necessity the planes will have to get bigger or they will fly like
Eric says(jello on a plate). I liked that one.<BR><BR>Jim
Ivey</SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jimmy I
agree with you here. My Enigma pattern design is 11 3/4 pounds and is
almost 13 pounds wet. It flies like a hippo in a tuttu. The OS 160 is
plenty of power but the plane simply isn't as nimble as what we are
used to</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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