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Following fads in racing. (or pattern.) Yes, indeed. We used to call
it "the trick of the month club." Bill Glaze<br>
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Bob Pastorello wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Mark - I'm surprised you would
actually ask that. Most of us that have been around for awhile know
absolutely that the game is a game of "followership", where masses of
people spend tons of money to duplicate the "hot setups" of the big
dogs in their own personal quest for glory.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Perhaps limiting the equipment that
the big dogs can use will help get things back into control?</font></div>
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Bob Pastorello<br>
NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<br>
<a href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</a><br>
<a href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</a></div>
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<a title="atwoodm@paragon-inc.com"
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">Atwood, Mark</a> </div>
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style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>
<a title="discussion@nsrca.org" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a>
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style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>
Friday, February 25, 2005 10:16 AM</div>
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RE: Weight limit discussion</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">So Buddy…I
HAVE to ask again… If the “Average” competitor that you’re referring to
ISN”T following in Chip’s/Jason’s/Sean’s (and of course our beloved
Dave L’s) footsteps…then why aren’t they flying any of the competitive,
well under 11lbs airframes that exist today??? USA Star’s, El Nino’s,
Desires, Arch Nem, SL-1, and on and on. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Dave’s
argument is simply that the ONLY reason people are struggling with
11lbs…is because they’re trying to build the same giant body ships that
the top guys fly. That will STILL be the case..except if you give them
another lb to work with…those top guys will just build that much bigger
of a ship that people will still want…and still can’t build to make
weight.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">So my
question is simply…why aren’t people flying the lighter designed 2M
airframes?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">-Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:BUDDYonRC@aol.com">BUDDYonRC@aol.com</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday,
February 25, 2005 11:01 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Weight
limit discussion</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(128, 0, 255); font-family: Arial;">Dave
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#8000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(128, 0, 255); font-family: Arial;">In
answer to the following parts of your post (had to split it up to big
for the list to handle)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Arial;">Raise the
weight limit in pattern, and the 2x2m monoplane will get bigger and
more costly (and the most competitive examples will still probably be
under 11 lbs, but the "average" plane won't be).</span></font><font
color="#8000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(128, 0, 255); font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#8000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(128, 0, 255); font-family: Arial;">So
far this is my point exactly. If we are to make AMA pattern an
inclusive event we in my opinion must include the average competitor.
Those who have higher aspirations will do what they must to achieve
perfection and a weight rule change will have little effect on those
who aspire to compete on a higher level.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Arial;">Raise the
weight limit in pattern while leaving unlimited displacement and the
2x2m box, and the 2x2m monoplane will no longer be the most competive
design - the most competitive design will be a purpose designed pattern
bipe that will be substantially more expensive (money, time,
maintenance) than the current day designs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Arial;">If you
don't think a purpose design pattern bipe would be the best, ask Chip.
He will tell you without reservation he would not have flown his Double
Visions in the past few years if he did not think it was the best plane.</span></font><font
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#8000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(128, 0, 255); font-family: Arial;">Yes,
but you also need to consider the level of competition and his goals.
Lets face it Chip is playing to the world in an arena composed of
professionals making him a member of an exclusive group that for the
most part excludes the rank and file of pattern. Here again I believe
AMA pattern should be structured to attract all of the rank and file
while affording those who aspire to greatness the opportunity to
compete on a higher level without effecting or excluding those who make
up the core of the pattern community or those who interested in joining
it <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#8000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
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