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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark - I'm surprised you would actually ask
that. Most of us that have been around for awhile know absolutely that the
game is a game of "followership", where masses of people spend tons of money to
duplicate the "hot setups" of the big dogs in their own personal quest for
glory.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Perhaps limiting the equipment that the big dogs
can use will help get things back into control?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=atwoodm@paragon-inc.com href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">Atwood,
Mark</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 25, 2005 10:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Weight limit
discussion</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So Buddy…I HAVE to
ask again… If the “Average” competitor that you’re referring to ISN”T
following in Chip’s/Jason’s/Sean’s (and of course our beloved Dave L’s)
footsteps…then why aren’t they flying any of the competitive, well under 11lbs
airframes that exist today??? USA Star’s, El Nino’s, Desires, Arch
Nem, SL-1, and on and on. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dave’s argument is
simply that the ONLY reason people are struggling with 11lbs…is because
they’re trying to build the same giant body ships that the top guys fly.
That will STILL be the case..except if you give them another lb to work
with…those top guys will just build that much bigger of a ship that people
will still want…and still can’t build to make
weight.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So my question is
simply…why aren’t people flying the lighter designed 2M
airframes?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-Mark<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>BUDDYonRC@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, February 25, 2005 11:01
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Weight limit discussion</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#8000ff size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #8000ff; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dave
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#8000ff size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #8000ff; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In answer to the
following parts of your post (had to split it up to big for the list to
handle)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#8000ff size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #8000ff; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Raise the weight
limit in pattern, and the 2x2m monoplane will get bigger and more costly (and
the most competitive examples will still probably be under 11 lbs, but the
"average" plane won't be).</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#8000ff
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #8000ff; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#8000ff size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #8000ff; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So far this is my
point exactly. If we are to make AMA pattern an inclusive event we in my
opinion must include the average competitor. Those who have higher aspirations
will do what they must to achieve perfection and a weight rule change
will have little effect on those who aspire to compete on a higher
level.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#8000ff size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #8000ff; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Raise the weight
limit in pattern while leaving unlimited displacement and the 2x2m box, and
the 2x2m monoplane will no longer be the most competive design - the most
competitive design will be a purpose designed pattern bipe that will be
substantially more expensive (money, time, maintenance) than the current day
designs.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you don't think
a purpose design pattern bipe would be the best, ask Chip. He will
tell you without reservation he would not have flown his Double Visions in
the past few years if he did not think it was the best
plane.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#8000ff size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #8000ff; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#8000ff size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #8000ff; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes, but you
also need to consider the level of competition and his goals. Lets face
it Chip is playing to the world in an arena composed of professionals
making him a member of an exclusive group that for the most part
excludes the rank and file of pattern. Here again I believe AMA pattern
should be structured to attract all of the rank and file while
affording those who aspire to greatness the opportunity to compete on a
higher level without effecting or excluding those who make up the core
of the pattern community or those who interested in joining it
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#8000ff size=2><SPAN
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