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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Buddy,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Do the rules of aerodynamics include things like wing
loading and power loading? Both of those will be dramatically effected by
a change in the weight limit (up or down). With unlimited
displacement and 2x2m maximum dimensions available, weight is very much a
design factor.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>"Lance
<DIV>In my evaluation the rules need to apply to Pattern as a whole. With the
two meter size limit builders will utilize the rules of aerodynamics to achieve
the optimum design and weight becomes a moot issue for all classes.</DIV>
<DIV>Buddy "</DIV></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=BUDDYonRC@aol.com
href="mailto:BUDDYonRC@aol.com">BUDDYonRC@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Weight rules discussion ( my
opinion)</DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 2/24/2005 7:25:59 PM Central Standard Time, <A
href="mailto:patterndude@comcast.net">patterndude@comcast.net</A>
writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Buddy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000>One good idea that I didn't see in your list was
the onelwhere the weight limit for the Advanced-thru-FAI classes remains the
same but the limit for Sportsmand/Intermediate is raised. This really
makes sense to me. We are all comfortable with advancing difficulty in
sequences. Well, building light is also a learned skill and sometimes
requires more $$ comittment. Pilots grow in flying, building, trimming
skills. Why subject sportsman to FAI building rules?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mailto:BUDDYonRC@aol.com
href="mailto:BUDDYonRC@aol.com">BUDDYonRC@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 24, 2005
1:33 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Weight rules discussion ( my
opinion)</DIV>
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<DIV>Since the whole message was to large to post following is my
opinion.</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>After a thorough weighted
comparison of the items listed in my previous post I have arrived at the
following conclusions.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT
color=#000000><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is most important that we strive
to make pattern an inclusive sport, which I feel is necessary to increase
participation in the future. In order to do that one of the first item
that should be addressed is that of eliminating the illegitimate double
standard in the weight rule. There are two possible solutions; the first
would be to enforce all rules, which many agree in this case would not be
in patterns best interest. That leaves us with only one solution and that
is to change the rule.<SPAN
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color=#000000><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In doing that we must consider the
overall impact of such a change to insure that it serves to protect all
the other aspects concerned as much as possible. After careful review and
acknowledging that maintaining the two-meter rule is in fact the limiting
design criteria for pattern I suggest that a change in the rule upward to
twelve pounds or in light of current FAI considerations, to 5.5K would be
an appropriate solution.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>This change could possibly
effect other aspects of pattern design in the future but given the known
requirements some of which are listed in my previous post that are
necessary and practiced extensively today I have little fear that this
change will result in any major design changes that would present a
problem or afford anyone an unfair advantage in the near
future.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT
color=#000000><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you study the items in my
previous post it will also become apparent that there are many listed
that offer the potential to increase our participation and make pattern
more inclusive. </FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>Should anyone have any other
items to offer that I should include which may require further evaluation
concerning my conclusions and suggested weight change please forward them
to me.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>Buddy Brammer</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT
color=#000000><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
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<DIV>Lance</DIV>
<DIV>In my evaluation the rules need to apply to Pattern as a whole. With the
two meter size limit builders will utilize the rules of aerodynamics to
achieve the optimum design and weight becomes a moot issue for all
classes.</DIV>
<DIV>Buddy </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>