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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It seems to me (my perception only) that we are
witnessing an age of pattern that actually seems very accessible by a new
pattern flyer. Never have I seen so many quality (and cheap) ARF's
available that are really capable flyers for 401, 402, and 403...perhaps 404 as
well...heck, Chuck showed all how it's done here in Dist. 6 with an
inexpensive 120size ARF and an OS 4stroke!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think that at the local contest level, weight is
not, and should not be, a big issue in the lower classes. Once you're up
to the 404 dancefloor it's time to play by the rules...all of them.
At the NAT's level, the rules will be, and should be, enforced through all
classes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was still a kid when the YS came out with a 120,
but I do remember my dad was trying to stay with all the big spenders in the
Northeast of the US with his Tiger Tails, Blue Angels, etc., so I do remember
somewhat that the motors were the limiting $$$ factor....hence, a good motor was
very expensive (comparatively)..think of the first time you saw the price of a
YS120. Now weight is the real limiting factor....so a big, light airframe
is $$$$ and motor options are much more plentiful. Pushing the limiting
factor, whatever it may be at the time, will cost money. I feel that
battery technology will (and already has) overcome it's own weight issues.
It seems that the only power options we are lacking right now are a 32oz. Gas
motor and perhaps fuel cells??? As strange as it sounds, I feel that
we are nearing a nice growth spurt in pattern simply due to the low costs
now to get involved in the lower classes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>sorry for the rant,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cshochhalter@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:cshochhalter@sbcglobal.net">Chuck Hochhalter</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 25, 2005 9:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Weight limit
discussion</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Funny
Gene, I have the same dilemma, a 11.5 lb Aries and will have to spend a few
bucks to fly Nats if that is where this season takes me.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Someone
earlier said that a plane doesn’t make the pilot. I agree to a point
but… here is the GREAT DISTRICT 6!!! (couldn’t help myself) we have a
ton of intermediate flyers who are great pilots and I personally believe that
they are so closely matched that equipment does play a part in how competitive
you can be.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I look
forward to the challenge of flying against Mark, Martin, Jim, Errol, Richard
and others I know I have missed, what a great year it will be, and I know that
I can have confidence in my skills but also in my plane.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This is
my first 2 meter plane, IMO to allow the lower classes a higher weight range
will allow those who are learning to build light, as it is an art, and want to
continue to progress up the classes, they will be able to get to the 5kg limit
using baby steps and not having to jump from whatever they flew in sportsman
to a 2 meter 11 lbs aircraft just to compete at NATS for the FIRST
time.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">By the
time I fly advanced, I am sure I will have started another plane, and began
investing more into my hobby and into pattern.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Once I
have progressed to this point in pattern the likely hood to step away from
pattern is less and therefore worth the investment.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I hope
this makes some sense, just a view from an up and coming pattern
pilot.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chuck
Hochhalter</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">District
6 Sportsman Champion 2004</SPAN></FONT></P>
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gene Maurice<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Friday, February 25,
2005</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
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PM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Weight limit
discussion</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dave,</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’ve got
an 11½ pound Aries. To get it down to 5 kg will cost me hundreds of
dollars (carbon pipe, carbon tube, etc.). How does an increased weight limit
equate to costing me more? I’m not sure I understand this logic. How and where
will I spend MORE to add weight. Buy a gas engine? The gassers in the size
category we’re talking about are substantially less $ than a DZ and don’t
produce near the power my OS 160’s do.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If the
top dogs are building/flying at 10#, a pound below the limit, what exactly
will you do with another pound? Make their planes stronger and more durable?
Boy, that would be bad for everyone. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW, if
heavier flys better, add lead, it’s cheap. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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Maurice</SPAN></FONT></P>
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