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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK, add back in 4 oz. or so for a 24 oz.
tank. I think I've kind of got it figured out for a contest--but I'll
probably be sweating the last few maneuvers on a windy day. A contest
pack--which will be lighter than the practice pack(s)--will change (probably)
the CG and performance somewhat. I'd like to fly the same thing all the
time. Still, I think logic prevails on weighing with or without batteries
in comparison to fuel.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:29
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<DIV><BR></DIV>No doubt. But, to my knowledge, there exists no practical
way to empty the battery of all it's components, leaving just the shell.
Is there such a way?<BR><BR>Richard Strickland wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Are they not part of the 'chemical
mixture'?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Do you then propose to weigh the airplane with the
electrolyte removed from the batteries? Or, perhaps, also the plates
and separators? Bill Glaze<BR><BR>Richard Strickland wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Exactly</EM> what "handicap assist" are
you referring to?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The electrics do not need a handicap
assist. If you give them one you might as well outlaw IC engines.
Other than cost they already have the advantage... and as technology
moves along they will soon dominate on their own. Get ready to get
onboard or get ready to find a new obsession (hobby?).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell <BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV defanged_style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday,
February 26, 2005 1:42 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gentlemen,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It seems that the issue started (and
someone please correct me if I'm wrong) regarding weighing electrics
with or without their 'fuel'. The discussion progressed to
what constituted the 'fuel' and I guess it ended up with the
electrons only as being 'it'. Consequently--and it seemed a
bit arbitrary--someone 'ruled' that the batteries for our purposes
were part of the airframe.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know very little about
electricity--but I DO know it takes the chemical mixture IN
them to 'fuel' the 'engine'. It would seem logical to weigh
electrics without their chemical mixture 'fuel' the same way we
weigh others without their chemical mixture 'fuel'. No big Rules
Change--just a logical DECISION on a QUESTION.</FONT></DIV>
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