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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob, I see your logic and it makes sense but I
don't favor changing the weight limit. Instead, we keep our "don't ask and I
won't tell" policy intact for all our local contests. I won't ask Chuck how much
his plane weighs and he don't have to tell. We both show up at our D6 contests
and fly our slightly heavy planes and have FUN. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rcaerobob@cox.net href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 26, 2005 4:35
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Weight limit
discussion</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As the guy that sold the plane to Chuck that was
overweight, I can tell you that the weight rule is DEFINITELY holding him
back!!! As Gene pointed out, how is spending hundreds of dollars to lose
a few ounces something that Chuck should HAVE TO DO ??? What's the logic
in that?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Chuck is a competent, skilled
pilot, and has a lot of potential. If the best that his situation lets
him afford is an otherwise GREAT airplane that is a little overweight - WHY
does he have to be punished because someone used too heavy wood or too much
epoxy on a wing panel ???</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is the root of my issue with the 5kg
rule.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the best someone can do is a 12 lb airplane,
and they are otherwise a competitive pilot who desperately WANTS to play, why
should we have a rule that says - NOPE - you're out, cause you're FAT
????</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It just does NOT make any
sense.</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cshochhalter@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:cshochhalter@sbcglobal.net">Chuck Hochhalter</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 25, 2005 9:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Weight limit
discussion</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Funny
Gene, I have the same dilemma, a 11.5 lb Aries and will have to spend a few
bucks to fly Nats if that is where this season takes me.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Someone earlier
said that a plane doesn’t make the pilot. I agree to a point but… here
is the GREAT DISTRICT 6!!! (couldn’t help myself) we have a ton of
intermediate flyers who are great pilots and I personally believe that they
are so closely matched that equipment does play a part in how competitive
you can be.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I look
forward to the challenge of flying against Mark, Martin, Jim, Errol, Richard
and others I know I have missed, what a great year it will be, and I know
that I can have confidence in my skills but also in my
plane.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This
is my first 2 meter plane, IMO to allow the lower classes a higher weight
range will allow those who are learning to build light, as it is an art, and
want to continue to progress up the classes, they will be able to get to the
5kg limit using baby steps and not having to jump from whatever they flew in
sportsman to a 2 meter 11 lbs aircraft just to compete at NATS for the FIRST
time.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">By the
time I fly advanced, I am sure I will have started another plane, and began
investing more into my hobby and into pattern.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Once I
have progressed to this point in pattern the likely hood to step away from
pattern is less and therefore worth the investment.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I hope
this makes some sense, just a view from an up and coming pattern
pilot.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chuck
Hochhalter</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">District 6
Sportsman Champion 2004</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gene Maurice<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Friday, February
25, 2005</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">8:50
PM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Weight limit
discussion</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dave,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’ve
got an 11½ pound Aries. To get it down to 5 kg will cost me hundreds
of dollars (carbon pipe, carbon tube, etc.). How does an increased weight
limit equate to costing me more? I’m not sure I understand this logic. How
and where will I spend MORE to add weight. Buy a gas engine? The gassers in
the size category we’re talking about are substantially less $ than a DZ and
don’t produce near the power my OS 160’s do.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If the
top dogs are building/flying at 10#, a pound below the limit, what exactly
will you do with another pound? Make their planes stronger and more durable?
Boy, that would be bad for everyone. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW,
if heavier flys better, add lead, it’s cheap. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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Maurice</SPAN></FONT></P>
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