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<DIV>Say way like you measure the 60 the 75 (from center). Therefore, it is really a big rectangle. They keeped the 60 degrees for the upper part of the box. The down grade for flying out-of-the-box is much harder and proportional to the class you are flying. The upper class gets zero if flying out of the box. Lower class is about two points downgrade.</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>> is that 90 from center, or 90 included angle? <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- vicenterc@comcast.net wrote: <BR>> <BR>> > IMAC changed to 90 degree box this year. <BR>> > <BR>> > Vince <BR>> > <BR>> > -------------- Original message -------------- <BR>> > <BR>> > As a member of the rules change committee I am <BR>> > trying to determine if there is interest in pursuing <BR>> > this matter and welcome a discussion and suggestions <BR>> > regarding this issue <BR>> > I have outlined some of the issues and suggestions <BR>> > pertaining to this below and welcome your opinions. <BR>> > <BR>> > The pattern box was added to the AMA rules when the <BR>> > turnaround method of <BR>> > Presentation and scoring was initiated. It defines <BR>> > the limited scoring area where all maneuvers must be <BR>> > performed. <BR>> > The purpose of the box is to provide a uniform but <BR>> > somewhat flexible area of presentation that allows <BR>> > the pilot the opportunity to tailor his presentation <BR>> > to the requirements of the pattern being flown, and <BR>> > allow judges to score his presentation on an <BR>> > equitable basis when compared to the presentations <BR>> > of other pilots flying the sequence. <BR>> > The rules provide for specific score penalties for <BR>> > performing any maneuver either out of the box or <BR>> > partially out of the box, making it all important <BR>> > that all box violations are downgraded the same by <BR>> > all judges to provide the correct score earned. <BR>> > Over the years the failure of judges to provide a <BR>> > uniform application of box violations has resulted <BR>> > in an unfair advantage to some pilots and a <BR>> > disadvantage to
others. <BR>> > In many cases box line poles are not or cannot be <BR>> > provided to give the pilot or judge the visual <BR>> > reference necessary which becomes the primary reason <BR>> > among others that this condition continues to exist. <BR>> > <BR>> > In addition to the above the present box <BR>> > configuration increases the possibility of a midair <BR>> > collision when two flight lines are used because <BR>> > many pilots strive to utilize the same optimum <BR>> > distance out in their presentation. <BR>> > By reconfiguring the box more area will be available <BR>> > for those who wish to fly in closer with out fear of <BR>> > box violation downgrades, this will also allow those <BR>> > who experience vision difficulties at greater <BR>> > distances the possibly to be more competitive <BR>> > In order to provide a method that will more nearly <BR>> > insure equity to all participants and simplify the <BR>> > task of judges, while possibly reducing the <BR>> > occurrences of midair collision, and also encourage <BR>> > those with limited eyesight at the greater distances <BR>> > to participate, It has been suggested that a rules <BR>> > change be requested to modify the pattern box layout <BR>> > and redefine the box boundary infringement penalty. <BR>> > <BR>> > One suggestion was to revise the box size by <BR>> > changing the box line from Sixty (60) degrees to <BR>> > Seventy-five (75) degrees. And adopt a uniform <BR>> > system of accessing penalties similar to the FAI <BR>> > rule or to the method used in IMAC <BR>> > <BR>> > Another suggestion which may offer solutions to more <BR>> > of the inherent problems experienced with the <BR>> > present box layout and scoring methods would be to <BR>> > adopt <BR>> > A box layout and penalty system as described in the <BR>> > AMA Scale Aerob
atics Rules Item 4.1 with <BR>> > modifications to suit pattern. <BR>> > <BR>> > Buddy Brammer <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> ================================================= <BR>> To access the email archives for this list, go to <BR>> http://lists.f3a.us/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/ <BR>> To be removed from this list, go to http://www.nsrca.org/discussionA.htm <BR>> and follow the instructions. <BR>> </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>