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<DIV>I forgot a biggie in the **Complaint Du Jur*** list: How about abolishing
Turnaround? This way we can eliminate a stage altogether and worry only
about centering.</DIV>
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<DIV>AMA pattern here we come, ready or not. Forget about noise, it wouldn't be
an issue with the present powerplants. Noise footprint is much smaller than it
was back in the days of the Banshee-like piped 60's turning toothpicks, even if
the stage was a mile wide. </DIV>
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<DIV>MattK </DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 3/3/2005 10:32:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
d.pappas@kodeos.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758043115-03032005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>John,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758043115-03032005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>That's because the urge to rush when under pressure is primordial:
think about how we all rushed the first time we had to read an essay in front
of the class.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758043115-03032005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>John Pavlick<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:40
AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Pattern Box
Rules (discussion)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=770252505-03032005>Right on. I think Tom Hanks said: "The 'hard' is
what makes it good". For the record, at my first contest / pattern primer
last year, I was actually told to "stretch out" my maneuvers. "The box is
way bigger than that" I was told. Wow, that made life easier. I did a lot
better in my second contest, even while flying 70's style (ballistic)
without a megabuck 2-meter airplane. I got everything done "in the box"
without it being rushed like at the first contest (you guys should have seen
the Immelman / roll / split "S" sequence - it looked like 2 rolls stretched
out slightly). If I can do it, anyone can. It only took 4 gallons of fuel to
fix the problem I had with "the box"... </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial>John Pavlick<BR><A
title=http://www.idseng.com/ href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT></FONT></P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>rick wallace<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:06
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Pattern Box
Rules (discussion)<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Matt –
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ya nailed this
one! Great! </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Let’s go burn
fuel and quit inventing things to try and fix! </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If it was easy,
it wouldn’t be fun! </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rick
</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Rcmaster199@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:43
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Pattern Box Rules
(discussion)</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In
Pattern:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There's nothing
wrong with the +/-60 degree stage rule and the 150 meter out distance is
fine also. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There's nothing
wrong with the 5 kilo max rule. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There is nothing
wrong with the 2x2 meter max rule</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There's nothing
wrong with the unlimited engine power rule</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What's the next
complaint du jur that ""needs fixing"""? The 42 volt nominal voltage when
an electric is involved? Or possibly argue that real radio programmability
with rate functions is desirable? Or autopilots and gyros? Or maybe
putting an upper limit on prop size because a X" prop on an engine is
dangerous? </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Interestingly,
one could argue that pattern has some similarity to golf in that it's an
individual's sport. Many may play golf but a small
percentage is good at it and extremely few are pros. C'mon
fellas, pattern should be challenging to do well. Actually, more
accurately, pattern is just plain tough to do, period. I find that fun.
Don't you?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">MattK</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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