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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Man, it's hard to practice when there are 40-45
guys wanting to fly! </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=pattern4u@comcast.net href="mailto:pattern4u@comcast.net">Grow
Pattern</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 07, 2005 10:45
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: growing pattern</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>I believe that a big reason why pattern has
become invisible is where we fly and practice. This was gradually and subtlety
caused by the rigors of the turnaround schedules!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>It is very difficult to fly at a club with
regular sport flyers, and often the accompanying flight direction rules, when
more than one plane is in the air.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Turnaround makes us fly consecutive maneuvers that
don't allow us to bale out if we are heading into traffic. So, we tend to fly
when the folks, who used to watch us, are not there, or at a more
isolated field. Then we become basically invisible and fail to inspire as we
did in the past.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=BUDDYonRC@aol.com
href="mailto:BUDDYonRC@aol.com">BUDDYonRC@aol.com</A> </DIV>
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<DIV DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 07, 2005
7:25 PM</DIV>
<DIV DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: growing
pattern</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 3/7/2005 5:33:50 PM Central Standard Time, <A
href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">jpavlick@idseng.com</A> writes:</DIV>
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size=2>Bob,<BR>Yeah, I agree. We need to improve our "exposure" if you
will. Last Summer,<BR>I was looking for pattern contests. Nobody in my
area knew where any were or<BR>even if people still flew pattern! I
somehow missed the NSRCA booth at the<BR>WRAM show last February too. One
of my club members happened to find a<BR>K-Factor somewhere and gave it to
me. Here I am. Flew Sportsman last year<BR>with a 40 size Kaos, now I've
got a Focus for Intermediate.<BR>As far as magazine coverage goes -you're
pretty much right about that too.<BR>3D, parkflyers and big scale
aerobatic stuff are in the spotlight now. Fear<BR>not. Dean has a pattern
column in Flying Models. I'm working with Fly RC<BR>magazine. I'm sure
there are a few other guys out there too. Don't forget<BR>about Eric in
M.A. I'm reviewing some stuff now that would be great for an<BR>intro to
pattern - 90 size ARFs (and some smaller ones too) that can
fly<BR>Sportsman and Intermediate. I think Dean has done a few reviews
along these<BR>lines too. If you want to see more pattern planes in the
magazines, take the<BR>time to write to the editors. We get review
airplanes based on what the<BR>readers want - not necessarily what we
want. If there are lots of requests<BR>for more pattern planes, motors,
etc. it will make the editors take notice.<BR>They always need stuff to
fill up the magazine so a few pictures of your<BR>plane and a short note
might get published in the "readers" section.<BR>I think you'll see things
improving soon. In the meantime, try to get some<BR>guys in your club
interested in pattern if you can. One way to get their<BR>attention is to
point out how precision aerobatics skills can be helpful for<BR>3D flying.
This has worked for me on at least two occasions. Ask them: "Can<BR>you
use the rudder effectively in a hover, when you're looking at the
bottom<BR>of the plane?" If the answer is "No" (it usually is), show them
what we're<BR>all about. a lot of guys are afraid of the rudder. Show them
how to use it<BR>and tell them how you learned these skills, etc. Either
that, or help them<BR>trim one of their planes to fly correctly (OK, just
do your best - sometimes<BR>it's almost impossible). They'll come
around.<BR><BR>John
Pavlick<BR>http://www.idseng.com<BR><BR><BR>><BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: discussion-request@nsrca.org<BR>>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Robert Mairs<BR>>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:20 PM<BR>> To:
discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: Re: Making Pattern Harder - was
Pattern Box Rules (discussion)<BR>><BR>><BR>> I've been
monitoring the list for a couple years now, haven't<BR>> said a
whole<BR>> lot, but a common theme I seem to see a lot, is talking
about the<BR>> past. If<BR>> you want pattern to grow, there's
only one way your gonna do it<BR>> and that's<BR>> to start
promoting it. You don't see anything about it anywhere.
Hardly<BR>> any plane reviews in major magazines, no ads in magazines,
about the only<BR>> thing going is an occasional column in ama.
If your not specifically<BR>> looking for it, pattern is pretty much
invisible in my opinion.<BR>> A banner ad<BR>> on rcu, rcgroups
drawing people to the website could be a<BR>> possibility.
If<BR>> you don't start attempting to draw in new people, diminished
size is<BR>> inevitable. Just look at the turnover in your local
clubs.<BR>> Sequences, wt<BR>> limits, turnaround, box sizes, etc,
etc, isn't gonna get pattern anywhere.<BR>><BR>> Make it easy for
somebody new, expand the beginners section on<BR>> the website.<BR>>
Guys are building lower priced arfs, have them write up some<BR>>
reviews, show<BR>> them they don't have to have a $3500 2m, custom
painted, tricked<BR>> out bird.<BR>> Update and expand district
sites makeing it easy to find a<BR>> contest to come<BR>> out to and
watch with directions, starting times, saying visitors<BR>>
welcome.<BR>> The only thing I think will turn around pattern is
promotion<BR>> outside of its<BR>> primary membership, which doesn't
really seem to take place.<BR>> rm<BR>><BR><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail
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<DIV>I think These are good points we need take a hard look and see how we
can each make a move in this direction I agree pattern is STEALTH now</DIV>
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