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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>The issue isn't where it is working. There is nothing
to fix there. The issue is where it is not working.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>We really don't have a way of reaching the regular club
pilot who is reasonably skilled and ready (ripe) for a challenge. If we are
not at the field we are not seen.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=amad2terry@juno.com href="mailto:amad2terry@juno.com">Terry
Terrenoire</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:05
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: growing pattern</DIV>
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<DIV>At our club field, the other guys tend to yield the air to us when flying
a pattern ship. There are enough of us in the club that we contribute a lot to
all aspects of club activity, so we get some consideration in return. In
addition, we have unofficially designated Friday nights as "pattern night".
Most of us show up, and we fly just one plane at a time. We help each other
with maneuvers and judging questions. Our club has produced the Sportsman
champ in D-1 4 of the past 6 years, so we must be doing something right.</DIV>
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<DIV>Terry T.</DIV>
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<DIV>On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:45:51 -0500 "Grow Pattern" <<A
href="mailto:pattern4u@comcast.net">pattern4u@comcast.net</A>>
writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>I believe that a big reason why pattern has
become invisible is where we fly and practice. This was gradually and
subtlety caused by the rigors of the turnaround schedules!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>It is very difficult to fly at a club with
regular sport flyers, and often the accompanying flight direction rules,
when more than one plane is in the air.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Turnaround makes us fly consecutive maneuvers that
don't allow us to bale out if we are heading into traffic. So, we tend to
fly when the folks, who used to watch us, are not there, or at a more
isolated field. Then we become basically invisible and fail to inspire as we
did in the past.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=BUDDYonRC@aol.com
href="mailto:BUDDYonRC@aol.com">BUDDYonRC@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 07, 2005 7:25
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: growing pattern</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 3/7/2005 5:33:50 PM Central Standard Time, <A
href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">jpavlick@idseng.com</A> writes:</DIV>
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size=2>Bob,<BR>Yeah, I agree. We need to improve our "exposure" if you
will. Last Summer,<BR>I was looking for pattern contests. Nobody in my
area knew where any were or<BR>even if people still flew pattern! I
somehow missed the NSRCA booth at the<BR>WRAM show last February too.
One of my club members happened to find a<BR>K-Factor somewhere and gave
it to me. Here I am. Flew Sportsman last year<BR>with a 40 size Kaos,
now I've got a Focus for Intermediate.<BR>As far as magazine coverage
goes -you're pretty much right about that too.<BR>3D, parkflyers and big
scale aerobatic stuff are in the spotlight now. Fear<BR>not. Dean has a
pattern column in Flying Models. I'm working with Fly RC<BR>magazine.
I'm sure there are a few other guys out there too. Don't forget<BR>about
Eric in M.A. I'm reviewing some stuff now that would be great for
an<BR>intro to pattern - 90 size ARFs (and some smaller ones too) that
can fly<BR>Sportsman and Intermediate. I think Dean has done a few
reviews along these<BR>lines too. If you want to see more pattern planes
in the magazines, take the<BR>time to write to the editors. We get
review airplanes based on what the<BR>readers want - not necessarily
what we want. If there are lots of requests<BR>for more pattern planes,
motors, etc. it will make the editors take notice.<BR>They always need
stuff to fill up the magazine so a few pictures of your<BR>plane and a
short note might get published in the "readers" section.<BR>I think
you'll see things improving soon. In the meantime, try to get
some<BR>guys in your club interested in pattern if you can. One way to
get their<BR>attention is to point out how precision aerobatics skills
can be helpful for<BR>3D flying. This has worked for me on at least two
occasions. Ask them: "Can<BR>you use the rudder effectively in a hover,
when you're looking at the bottom<BR>of the plane?" If the answer is
"No" (it usually is), show them what we're<BR>all about. a lot of guys
are afraid of the rudder. Show them how to use it<BR>and tell them how
you learned these skills, etc. Either that, or help them<BR>trim one of
their planes to fly correctly (OK, just do your best - sometimes<BR>it's
almost impossible). They'll come around.<BR><BR>John
Pavlick<BR>http://www.idseng.com<BR><BR><BR>><BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: discussion-request@nsrca.org<BR>>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Robert Mairs<BR>>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:20 PM<BR>> To:
discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: Re: Making Pattern Harder - was
Pattern Box Rules (discussion)<BR>><BR>><BR>> I've been
monitoring the list for a couple years now, haven't<BR>> said a
whole<BR>> lot, but a common theme I seem to see a lot, is talking
about the<BR>> past. If<BR>> you want pattern to grow,
there's only one way your gonna do it<BR>> and that's<BR>> to
start promoting it. You don't see anything about it
anywhere. Hardly<BR>> any plane reviews in major magazines, no
ads in magazines, about the only<BR>> thing going is an occasional
column in ama. If your not specifically<BR>> looking for it,
pattern is pretty much invisible in my opinion.<BR>> A banner
ad<BR>> on rcu, rcgroups drawing people to the website could be
a<BR>> possibility. If<BR>> you don't start attempting to
draw in new people, diminished size is<BR>> inevitable. Just
look at the turnover in your local clubs.<BR>> Sequences, wt<BR>>
limits, turnaround, box sizes, etc, etc, isn't gonna get pattern
anywhere.<BR>><BR>> Make it easy for somebody new, expand the
beginners section on<BR>> the website.<BR>> Guys are building
lower priced arfs, have them write up some<BR>> reviews, show<BR>>
them they don't have to have a $3500 2m, custom painted, tricked<BR>>
out bird.<BR>> Update and expand district sites makeing it easy to
find a<BR>> contest to come<BR>> out to and watch with directions,
starting times, saying visitors<BR>> welcome.<BR>> The only thing
I think will turn around pattern is promotion<BR>> outside of
its<BR>> primary membership, which doesn't really seem to take
place.<BR>> rm<BR>><BR><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail is certified Virus
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<DIV>I think These are good points we need take a hard look and see how we
can each make a move in this direction I agree pattern is STEALTH
now</DIV>
<DIV>Buddy</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT>
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