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While I definitely like the new system of downgrading, I remember well
my first contest season. All that we had, at that time, was impression
judging. (~1955)<br>
And, guess what? It worked remarkably well; I can't recall ever having
misgivings about the placement of at least the first five people; maybe
more.<br>
But yes, now is better, IMHO.<br>
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Bill Glaze<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>
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<div>In pattern there is a hard rule that has been passed by the CB.
It's called the "1 pt per 15 degree " rule, and pattern judges apply
the rule fairly well to center maneuvers at least. Most of the top
judges in pattern try hard NOT to judge " by impression", but rather by
the Downgrade Guidelines that have been established. The downgrades are
often discussed at judging seminars and a handout of downgrades is
given to attendees. Also a list of mandatory zeroes is given to same.
To return back to impression judging would be to take a step backwards
to 20 years ago.</div>
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<div>In a message dated 3/10/2005 1:06:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com">joddino@socal.rr.com</a> writes:</div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">It seems to me that the guy who
puts the airplane where the judges can see it should score better than
the guys that fly out in the next county. And it is no more difficult
to judge the ends of a square box than it is to judge the backline of
the vee. And who doesn't judge by impression? The rules don't specify
that things like roll rates, altitudes. and radii need to be the same
on all maneuvers but we are not impressed if they vary all over the map
from maneuver to maneuver. I say forget the box but downgrade like mad
for someone that is out of control on positioning and that includes
being too high, too low, too far up wind or down wind, in too close or
out too far. Amen.</font></div>
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Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:17 PM</div>
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Re: Another box rule (discussion)</div>
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On Mar 8, 2005, at 8:52 PM, Lance Van Nostrand wrote:<br>
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<blockquote>The concept of a rectangular box, instead of one that
is a "vee", is intriguing. It's hard to judge, but it would allow
closer in flight without detriment.<br>
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And we could say, "Gee, now we're flying just like IMAC." I think they
call it a "zoneless box", or something like that and they award "style
points", or something like that. Just what we need, no box and
impression judging. Back to the dark ages of judging! : (<br>
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Ron Van Putte</blockquote>
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