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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think Doug Cronkite has mentioned similar issues
with it too Bill.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=billglaze@triad.rr.com href="mailto:billglaze@triad.rr.com">Bill
Glaze</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Another box rule
(discussion)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Buddy:<BR>I like the way you are exploring lots of
options. It can only help to get these (and other) ideas.<BR>By way of
information, only:<BR>I just returned from judging at the JR Challenge in
Punta Gorda, FL. Having to leave Greensboro, NC with it's 30 and 40
degree weather, for Florida with it's 70 degree weather, was a real
sacrifice. Nasty job, but someone had to do it.<BR>Anyway, while there,
the box situation came up.<BR>Following the International Aerobatic Club, and
applying it's rules/thinking to model airplanes doesn't always work, despite
what some elements in IMAC seem to think.<BR>The box situation is one of those
things that simply hasn't worked.<BR>Originally, the 3 zone box was
eliminated; no more left/center/right zones. Then, the box itself was,
in effect, nullified. Would you believe that the thinking at the time
was that such a rule change would make for a smaller (yes, smaller!!) noise
foot print? Maneuvers no longer had to be centered; they could be flown
way, way off center; this of course made the turnarounds nearly in a foreign
country. At the conclusion of the flight, the judge was asked to award a
"positioning" score which, we were assured, would level the playing field for
those folks who ignored the centering completely. (and many did ignore
it.) It certainly had no effect on positioning. And it made the
maneuvering area absolutely huge; judges had trouble seeing airplanes as big
as 42%, with wingspans as large as 116" It certainly didn't help the
precision when the pilot couldn't really see the airplane, and the judges had
a very hard time judging it.<BR><BR>Now, to the crux of the matter: there is a
definite move afoot to re-establish the box, and to re-install the
zones. After suffering through the zoneless box, then the boxless box,
they have finally begun to realize that there has to be some territorial
limit, or the whole scheme of things becomes ridiculous.<BR>Look for it to be
changed. Some things must happen first, but they will be
changed.<BR>Sorry to be so long winded, but the only other person I know on
this list who is intimately familiar with the above is Ed Alt. I felt
there might be some interesting information here.<BR><BR>Bill Glaze<BR><BR><A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:BUDDYonRC@aol.com">BUDDYonRC@aol.com</A> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>There seems to be valid reasons to <STRONG>not change</STRONG> the
present pattern box.</DIV>
<DIV>There are also two seemingly valid questions / problems that the
present box arrangement presents.</DIV>
<DIV>1. Pilots flying optimum distance out increase the chance of mid air
collision.</DIV>
<DIV>2. Pilots who are somewhat vision limited who would prefer to fly
closer in.</DIV>
<DIV>A possible solution would be to revise the box rules to allow a person
who in advance of his flight accepts a 2% total flight score downgrade to
fly in closer and violate the 60 degree box lines without further
downgrade.</DIV>
<DIV>How about some comments and opinions and any other ideas which would
address these issues. </DIV>
<DIV>Please don't boot me off of the list again I'm just trying to do my
Job.</DIV>
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