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I really am neutral on this new rule. However, seldom have I seen a
more obvious example of the Law of Unintended Consequences so directly
applied. "Simplification?" It would appear to belie the term.<br>
Bill Glaze<br>
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John Ferrell wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I like the new T&L rule. I
believe the box calls are no longer of any value, remember the
childhood games of "Mother may I?" and "Simon says?".</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The end run to pass the rule is what
is under debate. I cannot fault those who did it because they are the
ones granted the power. If the Contest Board members are really up to
the assigned task, why are they not conducting the survey?</font></div>
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<div>John Ferrell <br>
<a href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</a><br>
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<a title="derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net"
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net">Derek Koopowitz</a> </div>
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<a title="discussion@nsrca.org" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a>
; <a title="discussion@nsrca.org" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a>
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Monday, May 16, 2005 11:18 AM</div>
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Re: calling complete for new takeoff</div>
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<div>As usual... we always blame someone else. No one seems to be
willing to sit up and say "I was President and I'll take the blame
because it happened on my watch". Typical.<br>
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From: Grow Pattern <PATTERN4U @comcast.net=""><br>
Sent: May 16, 2005 6:45 AM <br>
To: <a href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a> <br>
Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff <br>
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<div>I agree that all AMA members have these rights, But when the
contest board chairman, The NSRCA president-elect and the NSRCA vice
president at that time, submit a proposal in direct opposition to the
majority of the NSRCA, </div>
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<div>It does pose the question of why did we bother to do the work
and find out what the NSRCA membership wanted. </div>
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<div>Eric. </div>
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<a title="GAA@owt.com" href="mailto:GAA@owt.com">Gordon Anderson</a>
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<a title="discussion@nsrca.org" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a>
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Monday, May 16, 2005 1:57 AM</div>
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RE: calling complete for new takeoff</div>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span class="428234705-16052005">My
point is the procedure does not involve the NSRCA, go to the AMA web
site and download document 333.pdf, its the rule change proposal form.
Its signed by three AMA members one of whom must be a CD. The NSRCA is
a special interest group not a ruling body. The process is a right that
every AMA member has regardless of ones affiliation with a SIG. It is
unreasonable to expect an AMA member to give up his/her rights when
they join a SIG. </span></div>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span class="428234705-16052005">--Gordon</span></div>
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<hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wincons@aol.com">Wincons@aol.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 15, 2005 9:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: calling complete for new takeoff<br>
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<div>In a message dated 5/16/2005 12:05:11 A.M. Central Daylight
Time, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:GAA@owt.com">GAA@owt.com</a> writes:</div>
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<div><span class="403595504-16052005">Individuals submit rule
change proposals not the NSRCA. The NSRCA board has no special power in
this process, at least not in the version of the rule book I'm looking
at.</span></div>
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<div><span class="403595504-16052005">--Gordon</span></div>
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<div>These rules were written BEFORE the NSRCA was recognized as
the official SIG for pattern, I believe. It is in our best interests
to act together, in concert, which is why we formed the NSRCA. And why
we all belong. It's kinda like being a citizen; we enjoy the
protection of the Union, and are obligated to work with the majority.
Being an NSRCA member includes an implied responsibility to cooperate
with the majority opinions democratically arrived at. This way, we can
provide the best possible guidance to the AMA Contest Board in
maintaining our sport, to betterment of the greatest number.</div>
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<div>Brian Clemmons</div>
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