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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I like the new T&L rule. I believe the box
calls are no longer of any value, remember the childhood games of "Mother may
I?" and "Simon says?".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The end run to pass the rule is what is under
debate. I cannot fault those who did it because they are the ones granted the
power. If the Contest Board members are really up to the assigned task, why are
they not conducting the survey?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell <BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></DIV>
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<A title=derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net">Derek Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> ; <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 16, 2005 11:18 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: calling complete for new
takeoff</DIV>
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<DIV>As usual... we always blame someone else. No one seems to be
willing to sit up and say "I was President and I'll take the blame because it
happened on my watch". Typical.<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----
<BR>From: Grow Pattern <PATTERN4U@COMCAST.NET><BR>Sent: May 16, 2005 6:45 AM
<BR>To: <A href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>
<BR>Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff
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<DIV>I agree that all AMA members have these rights, But when the contest
board chairman, The NSRCA president-elect and the NSRCA vice president at that
time, submit a proposal in direct opposition to the majority of the NSRCA,
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<DIV>It does pose the question of why did we bother to do the work and find
out what the NSRCA membership wanted. </DIV>
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<DIV>Eric. </DIV>
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<A title=GAA@owt.com href="mailto:GAA@owt.com">Gordon Anderson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 16, 2005 1:57
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: calling complete for new
takeoff</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=428234705-16052005>My point is the
procedure does not involve the NSRCA, go to the AMA web site and download
document 333.pdf, its the rule change proposal form. Its signed by three AMA
members one of whom must be a CD. The NSRCA is a special interest group not
a ruling body. The process is a right that every AMA member has regardless
of ones affiliation with a SIG. It is unreasonable to expect an AMA member
to give up his/her rights when they join a SIG. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=428234705-16052005>--Gordon</SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Wincons@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 15, 2005 9:32
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: calling
complete for new takeoff<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 5/16/2005 12:05:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
GAA@owt.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=403595504-16052005>Individuals submit rule change
proposals not the NSRCA. The NSRCA board has no special power in this
process, at least not in the version of the rule book I'm looking
at.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN
class=403595504-16052005>--Gordon</SPAN></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV>These rules were written BEFORE the NSRCA was recognized as the
official SIG for pattern, I believe. It is in our best interests to
act together, in concert, which is why we formed the NSRCA. And why we
all belong. It's kinda like being a citizen; we enjoy the protection
of the Union, and are obligated to work with the majority. Being an
NSRCA member includes an implied responsibility to cooperate with the
majority opinions democratically arrived at. This way, we can provide the
best possible guidance to the AMA Contest Board in maintaining our sport, to
betterment of the greatest number.</DIV>
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