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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;m too new to the process to know
how that would be handled, but I for one would certainly support anything that
reinstated scored landings. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regarding the actual
&#8220;Vote&#8221;&#8230;the FINAL voting forms do not contain ANY&#8230;I mean
ANY of the rational that is submitted for the rule&#8230;JUST the text of the
rule change. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For new members of the contest board (Vern
and I) it took a fair bit of work calling different proposer&#8217;s to
understand the motivations of some. (most are straight forward, but there were
a few that seemed out of left field.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would imagine in future votes, being
part of the entire process will help, but there will always be the chance of a
new board member getting into the game late and having to make decisions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It was interesting to me that ALL of the
IMAC rule change proposals came from the sig&#8230;there were NO independent
proposals to confuse things, and I believe their changed passed with a clean
slate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-M<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Grow Pattern<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:18
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">discussion@nsrca.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: calling complete for
new takeoff</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Mark</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Your note
really caught my attention.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I &nbsp;have submitted many of the rules changes on behalf
of&nbsp;the NSRCA. In the section called <strong><b><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>Proposal logic,</span></font></b></strong> there is a
reference to the NSRCA survey result or the Precision Aerobatics SIG.&nbsp;I
went and read some old ones before I typed this and it is not very obvious
until you get to&nbsp;that section, where the proposal comes from. I think that
this is because the proposal is designed fro individual submission.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I know that we sent the NSRCA survey results in as well as
the proposals. We also put them in the K-Factor and on the web-site. But this
may well not be enough.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We can do better.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>If fact Lamar already plans to have the results of the next
NSRCA survey broken down by AMA district so that AMA Contest Board members can
see how their districts voted on the proposals.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Based upon what you explained&nbsp;I now see that we should
include the results per proposal, very early in the text of the proposals to
allow board members to clearly see the source of the change request. I really
appreciate your candor because it helps us do a better job in the future.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Regards,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Eric.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>P.S.&nbsp; I am reliably informed that Vern was not the only
one who misunderstood the English of the landing and take-off change and
unintentionally voted the wrong way. Maybe we can get the board to re-vote on
the subject due to the announced confusion? Or we could put in a Urgent
proposal to have them vote again?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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