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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
Your note really caught my attention.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have submitted many of the rules changes on
behalf of the NSRCA. In the section called <STRONG>Proposal logic,</STRONG>
there is a reference to the NSRCA survey result or the Precision Aerobatics
SIG. I went and read some old ones before I typed this and it is not very
obvious until you get to that section, where the proposal comes from. I
think that this is because the proposal is designed fro individual
submission.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know that we sent the NSRCA survey results in as
well as the proposals. We also put them in the K-Factor and on the web-site. But
this may well not be enough.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We can do better.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If fact Lamar already plans to have the results of
the next NSRCA survey broken down by AMA district so that AMA Contest Board
members can see how their districts voted on the proposals.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Based upon what you explained I now see that
we should include the results per proposal, very early in the text of the
proposals to allow board members to clearly see the source of the change
request. I really appreciate your candor because it helps us do a better job in
the future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.S. I am reliably informed that Vern was not
the only one who misunderstood the English of the landing and take-off change
and unintentionally voted the wrong way. Maybe we can get the board to re-vote
on the subject due to the announced confusion? Or we could put in a Urgent
proposal to have them vote again?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mrandmrst@comcast.net href="mailto:mrandmrst@comcast.net">Ken
Thompson III</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 17, 2005 6:35 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: calling complete for new
takeoff</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very well said Mark. Thank you for
sharing information that has eluded the masses. This helps me
understand a little of how things are done.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I like to know all of these things, I'm anal like
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=atwoodm@paragon-inc.com
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">Atwood, Mark</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 16, 2005 10:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: calling complete for new
takeoff</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m not sure why I
feel the need to jump in here…But before things get ugly, I’d like to make a
few simple points known from the perspective of at least this contest board
member.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We (I) try to do
what’s in the best interest of the entire aerobatic community, both Pattern
and IMAC (though we’ll soon only be worrying about Pattern is
seems) The desires of the masses…namely the NSRCA
and the IMAC sig, are taken strongly into account, but are also weighed with
the experience that put us on the board in the first
place.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regarding the
specific vote on the scored landings I think a few things need to be made
clear. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">1)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If it
were voted on again…it would not pass. Vern has been more than
forthright, and equally apologetic that he voted for the change in
error. But even so, he’s not the scapegoat, there were several votes
for in addition to his.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">2)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rule
change entries are made by individuals…Not the NSRCA. The final packet
that I received had no delineation between NSRCA “supported” rules, and
those submitted by single members. As such, unless someone is an NSRCA
member, and an online active one at that… It would be very difficult
to separate a “supported” rule change, from one that was submitted by the
same leadership, but was actually counter to the group’s desires. In
other words, it would not surprise me if someone said they thought they
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">were</SPAN></B> voting for an NSRCA
supported rule change, only to find out that it was
not.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This is a
hobby…clearly one we all (including myself) take juuuuuuust a little too
seriously, but a hobby none the less. I’m pretty sure everyone
involved at all levels is only trying to make it a little more fun for
themselves and those they participate with. I like to give everyone
the benefit of the doubt that their choices and decisions, however skewed
they may seem to me…were made with good intentions towards that goal.
There is little else to be gained….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-Mark<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>RUDDERCABL@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, May 16, 2005 10:28
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">discussion@nsrca.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: calling complete for new
takeoff</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In a message dated 5/15/2005
10:25:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, vanputte@cox.net
writes:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It may have been clear, but it
was incorrect. Trying to tell the <BR>contest board members what to
do is like herding cats. Anyone who <BR>thinks otherwise is either
uninformed or just deliberately acting <BR>stupid.<BR><BR>Ron Van
Putte<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You obviously have the "desires"
of the "people" confused with anarchest overthrow of the government
!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Nobody tried to "tell" the
contest board what to do. At least not us "uninformed" or "deliberately
stupid". I'm "uninformed". Which are you?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Robert
Gainey <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>