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You're absolutely right, Bill !!! It was never broken to begin with,
but some individuals in positions of authority don't understand the English
language. We HAD a descriptive that was detailed and precise and all you
had to do was follow it and things were O.K., but the rules committee reviewed
it and came to the conclusion that, (and I quote) "We realized that we
were not doing it THAT way" ( that is, not the way the rulebook described
the execution ), so what did they do?? Instead of changing THEIR
execution to conform to the rulebook specs, they decided to change the
rulebook so that it would conform to THEIR execution practices ( i.e.,
make it the way WE do it!). WRONG!!!
<BR>Don't get me wrong, I really love all these guys, I just can't help
feel that there are some deficiencies regarding interpretive skills when
it comes to the original intent of the rule under discussion here.
<BR>Additionally, I'm at a loss for understanding how the new TO ruling,
with it's included procedure turn, free pass, and turn-around is a time
saver over the old TO which was complete at 2 meters of altitude, as prescribed
by RVP. I've got splinters in my fingers from scratching my head over this
one. There's got to be more to this than I'm aware of!
<BR>Georgie
<BR>PS. Jim Ivey has this one right on the money!
<P>Bill Glaze wrote:
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<BR>It seems to me it got confusing when they blurred the line between
AMA classes, and FAI. Mixing oil and water, so to speak. Now
everybody is floundering, trying to get a satisfactory compromise for something
that came out of a fix, for something that wasn't broken to begin with.
Or so I see it.
<P>Bill Glaze
<P>Jim Ivey wrote:
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I don't see what is wrong or needs to be changed from the old way of ---- calling take-off complete at the altitude of 6 ft or 2 meters. Or calling landing beginning at 6ft or 2 meters. Why confuse everybody with something to do between takeoff complete and entry to the box and the exit box call and landing. It is the FAI procedure that requires the takeoff sequence.. We don't need a sequence.It wastes time and gives the judges more work,when it has no function.
It is simple, takeoff complete at 2 meters or 6ft and enter the box. Exit box and landing beginning at 2 meters or 6ft.
I don't understand how this got so confusing when it was so simple.
Jim Ivey</PRE>
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</A>Date: 2005/05/22 Sun PM 05:57:06 EDT
To: "NSRCA" <A HREF="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><discussion@nsrca.org>
</A>Subject: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
I know there has been much discussion on this, but after CDing a contest
this weekend, I believe there needs to be a clear understanding of what is
expected in two areas.
1) When to call "Take-Off complete / Landing commencing". When does it
need to be called? After exiting the Box for the last maneuver for Landing.
Prior to entering the box for the trim pass on Take-Off. This is what makes
sense to me from CDing a contest.
2) Is a Dead-Stick Landing a "Zero Landing"? At the beginning of our
contest I stated that we would not zero TO / L for calling. So we scored all
landings. However, if a dead-stick prevents completing the prescribed
maneuver, then a zero is really the most likely result at the NATS. I don't
believe this was intended.
The Judging committee should really jump on this and get clarification out
as quickly as possible for the "Official Judge Ruling" People are trying to
practice this and although seemingly easy on paper, the execution of calling
and judging properly does get a bit confusing...We need to make sure
everyone is practicing this correctly before the NATS or it will be a
potential area of concern for the CD's...
Larry Diamond
NSRCA 3083</PRE>
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