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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Posted in behalf of John Pavlick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ron Lockhart</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ronlock@comcast.net
href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 27, 2005 11:23 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Another message</DIV></DIV>
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<P>Ron - I'm at work so I'm limited as far as "the list" goes. I can get
Email but I can't post to the list. Could you copy this message and forward it
to the D1 discussion group <A
href="mailto:dist1@nsrca.org">dist1@nsrca.org</A> ? Thanks!</P>
<P>John Pavlick</P>
<P><A href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></P>
<P>Dean et al,</P>
<P> I still don't understand how abolishing the "Championship" achievement
is going to make any difference. I see Dave's point - kind of doesn't make sense
as far as wording goes, but the reality is I don't think it would make any
difference one way or another if there was no "Sportsman Champion". When I
started flying pattern the last thing that went through my mind was winning any
kind of points championship. There are plenty of other things to worry about. As
far as making Sportsman more "entry level friendly": Instead of abolishing the
achievemment award - how about making some rules that don't allow 2-meter planes
in Sportsman or something like that. Remember the old "no pipes or retracts"
rules? That does more to keep the cost down than anything else. Look at what
they do in racing classes (no aluminum heads / no 4bbl carbs, etc.) That keeps
the cost down to a point but someone always pushes the envelope. The perception
is that the hardware will triumph over skill (or lack thereof). How many $500.00
golf clubs have you seen? Those of us who can read between the lines know this
isn't true, but marketing strategy prevails.</P>
<P> On another note, here's a reality check. In my second contest - I got
booted out of Sportsman. What a stupid rule. As long as 7 guys show up - 3 of
them are screwed. Now we all know how well a 40 size Kaos would do in 402.
See what I did (thanks Ed and Rick)? Two Focii (and a new radio and GMC
truck) later I'm still flying. I'm not hoping to win the 402 "Championship" this
year. Or next. Just want to fly better and have a good time with my new friends.
See you at Pocono!</P>
<P>John Pavlick</P>
<P><A href="http://www.idseng.com/" target=_blank el="http://www.idseng.com"
lid="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></P>
<P>2nd place 2004 / D1 Sportsman<BR></P>
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<DIV><SPAN class=759124913-27052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hey
Gang,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=759124913-27052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Those of us who have been at this game forever are weighing in, mostly
on the side of trying to take the impression that you need a major commitment
to fly Sportsman: both financially, and timewise.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=759124913-27052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We
might be forgiven if some of us (myself included) thought that not having a
points race in Sportsman would make that first hurdle feel
lower.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=759124913-27052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=759124913-27052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Simple question for <STRONG>only</STRONG> the guys who flew Sporstman
within the last five or so years ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=759124913-27052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Did
the points race in Sportsman add to your perception of difficulty, make
the "entry fee" to swim in the big pool seem bigger, or raise the needed
level of committment?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=759124913-27052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It's
pretty obvious that what I think is not the issue! Those of you who have more
recent memories of the entry-level can offer me some
guidance.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=759124913-27052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>P.S.
I seem to be utterly unable to sign on to the NSRCA discussion list, so if
someone places this same question there, that might throw a wider
net.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=759124913-27052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=759124913-27052005> <FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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