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<DIV>Isn't the AMA tape clear on this? In the seminars, we are using the tape as a primary source of reference. I am going to see the tape in these days and check.</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>> Bob, <BR>> No, <BR>> Don <BR>> <BR>> PS: This has been incorrect forever and ignored by the judges. The <BR>> downgrades under the individual maneuvers referring to heading when track is <BR>> actually meant is ridiculous. <BR>> <BR>> Don <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Bob Pastorello" <RCAEROBOB@COX.NET><BR>> To: <DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:25 PM <BR>> Subject: Re: Rules Survey - Track v.s. Heading <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > This weekend, had an interesting discussion with some folks at the Tulsa <BR>> > contest. My comments related to "track" of loops, part loops, etc....I <BR>> > have always believed that the TRACK of the maneuver was to be constant, <BR>> > either parallel or perpendicular to, the "flight line" established as the <BR>> > parallel line to the centerline of the runway. <BR>> > <BR>> > In all the manuever DOWNGRADES in the AMA regs, nearly every loop or <BR>> > part-looping maneuver downgrade lists "Heading" changes as cause for <BR>> > downgrade. <BR>> > <BR>> > As we all know from flying crosswinds, heading and track are only the same <BR>> > in a zero wind condition where the flight path and the centerline of the <BR>> > fuselage are parallel (or identical). <BR>> > When wind corrections get introduced to the mix, the HEADING is offset <BR>> > *usually INTO the prevailing crosswind component*, so that the TRACK of <BR>> > the manuever is maintained. <BR>> > <BR>> > Can anyone find the reference where the AMA Judge's Guidelines, or <BR>> > downgrades, refer properly to TRACK (as they likely were intended to <BR>> > be!!!) ???? <BR>> > <BR>> > Bob Pastorello <BR>> > www.rcaerobats.net <BR>> > rcaerobob@cox.net <BR>
> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: Don Ramsey <BR>> > To: discussion@nsrca.org <BR>> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:38 PM <BR>> > Subject: Re: Rules Survey <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Looks like the deadline for comments only in June 7th. The final survery <BR>> > will be complete around that time and will be voted at a later date. <BR>> > <BR>> > Don <BR>> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: vicenterc@comcast.net <BR>> > To: discussion@nsrca.org ; discussion@nsrca.org <BR>> > Cc: Don Ramsey <BR>> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:04 AM <BR>> > Subject: Re: Rules Survey <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Don, <BR>> > <BR>> > When is the dead line to send you the survey? <BR>> > <BR>> > Looks very good to me. Thanks for all work done. <BR>> > <BR>> > Vicente Bortone <BR>> > <BR>> > -------------- Original message -------------- <BR>> > <BR>> >> Everyone, <BR>> >> <BR>> >> Just found out that I have about 4 more days for comments or suggestions <BR>> >> on <BR>> >> proposals for the next rules cycle. The survey can be viewed on <BR>> >> http://www.nsrca.org/competition/judging/judging.htm <BR>> >> <BR>> >> You must have your comment or suggestions to me don.ramsey@cox.net by <BR>> >> 6-7-2005. <BR>> >> <BR>> >> There is a short dicussion from FAI about the weight limits at the end of <BR>> >> the survey. If you would like to write a counter to this, I'll take some <BR>> >> of <BR>> >> the comments and add them to the document. <BR>> >> <BR>> >> Don Ramsey <BR>> >> NSRCA Judging Committee Chairman <BR>> >> AMA 6096 NSRCA 1506 <BR>> >> email: don.ramsey@cox.net <BR>> >> website: http://members.cox.net/don.ramsey <BR>> >> <BR>> >> ================
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