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Steve:<br>
How about a hook? I used to have a lot of golf balls that had a
built-in hook. Bill<br>
<br>
spbyrum wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Golf ball is round like a
loop, but you have to be
able to put a big smile in the side of it.<span style="">
</span>It doesn’t matter which side, so that makes it a Golf Ball
with
options.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Steve Byrum </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> </span></font><st1:PersonName><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</a></span></font></st1:PersonName><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">
[mailto:</span></font><st1:PersonName><font color="black" face="Tahoma"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</a></span></font></st1:PersonName><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Bill
Glaze<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 06,
2005 11:42
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> </span></font><st1:PersonName><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a></span></font></st1:PersonName><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Flying
the new
sequences</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Anybody
been able to
fugure out a "golf ball?" Some of the folks around here
can't. Including me. Bill Glaze<br>
<br>
Lance Van Nostrand wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">At the Broken Arrow
contest a bunch of the flyers got together and reviewed the new
proposals. Dan Curtis flew the Intermediate sequences (options A &
B)
and I (Lance) flew the Advanced. Bill Ahrens was supposed to fly the
Masters, but he was too chicken to do it in the dark. Imagine that.
Here are some comments from the group for the Sportsman thru Advanced.
For Masters, we never had the chance to discuss as a group so those
comments
are purely mine.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">First, let me say
that the work put into these is evident and exceptional. There isn't
really a bad solution and both options are good. Thanks to everyone
involved. It's really a situation where choosing means being very
picky,
so everyone involved should be proud of the options they created. I
can
see advantages/disadvantages to manuvers in these sequences, but will
not use
this note to go to that detail. Just the factors that tipped the
balance.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">sportsman:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Option A was the
group choice only because B has the vertical upline on center and many
underpowered sportsman planes can't do this. We already see plenty of
trouble with stall turns and in a stall turn you don't have to be able
to push
out, just fall.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Intermediate:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Option B was the
choice because the 2 outside loops + Cuban 8 + double immelman made the
sequence longer in time at essentially the same Kfactor. B will move
better at big contests and introduces a shark's tooth, which we haven't
seen in
pattern maybe ever.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Advanced:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Option B mostly
because we need a cuban 8 before masters (it combines so many elements)
and partly
because the 2 outside loops in A, although excellent skill builders can
kind of long to watch.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Masters 2007: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">My choice: Option B
because it looks way more fun and has new stuff (8 point roll, figure
M).
Also, the 1 1/2 downline snap in A is sure to cause controversy AGAIN.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Masters 2009:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">My choice: Option
A. this is a hard one because A continues the 8 pt roll, but it has
lots of
cool stuff. the 1 1/2 snap is in both A & B so that can't be
differentiator. Option B just seems more normal (except for the
"spring coil" which I don't know what it is). Overall option A
has an interesting cuban and avalanche, and 8 sided loop, reversed
spins,
etc. It will look very different.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">--Lance</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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