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Verne:<br>
Well put! If they want to ignore those of us who have 'aged
out"<G> certainly that could be done. But, last time I looked,
my $20 was accepted as quickly as the hotshot who is on his way up, and
I swelled the contest roster by 1 person, anyway. Bill Glaze D2 VP<br>
<br>
Ed Hartley wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="4">Well said Verne! Since I reached the ripe young
age of seventy-three and for flying purposes became a one eyed pilot, I
can appreciate the class thing. I am still trying to fly Masters but
it really is an uphill battle. Not like it was even ten years ago! </font></div>
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<div><font size="4">I am trying with great difficulty to stay away
from the "why-bother" level!</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">Best,<br>
Ed Hartley<br>
<a href="mailto:roho2@rcpattern.com">roho2@rcpattern.com</a><br>
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<a title="verne@twmi.rr.com" href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne
Koester</a> </div>
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Re: [SPAM] Re: New Sequences</div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Terry,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">There are rules proposals in the survey
that cover your situation. Many of them make a lot of sense, at least
to me. You can find them as well as the proposed schedules on the NSRCA
site. It's a little tricky, but we have to deal with the fact that
there are a lot of guys who just love to fly pattern, support our
contests and are our friends that won't make it to the top. The reasons
can be job/family demands, financial, skill or deteriorating skill with
age, or any number of other factors. The trick is to adopt rules that
accommodate those things while still preventing the trophy hog from
laying around in a class year after year. Some of the proposals address
those things and merit all of our attention. If we ignore them, we'll
find our already-shrinking local contests reduced to a "why-bother"
level.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Verne</font></div>
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Thursday, June 09, 2005 6:37 AM</div>
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Re: [SPAM] Re: New Sequences</div>
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<div>Just another comment. Keep in mind that I have not seen the
new sequence yet.</div>
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<div>I have been flying Advance since 1989, before turnaround. I
don't believe I have won a contest in that time, and have had only a
couple of 2nds. Right now, I am looking at the jump to Masters as being
too big for me. I have learned to handle the current schedule, maybe
not as smoothly as most, but I can get thru the sequence without
embarresing myself.</div>
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<div>If the new sequence is "easier", I can see myself in a
position where I could be winning some contests, and would be forced
out of the class, again with a much bigger leap to a class I feel is
already beyond my abilities. </div>
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<div>At my age, learning new tricks, when the old have not been
perfected, may just push some of us in similar situations completely
out of the mix.</div>
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<div>Terry T.</div>
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<div>On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Rodney Tanner <<a
href="mailto:rodney19821982@yahoo.com">rodney19821982@yahoo.com</a>>
writes:</div>
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<div>Bill, Mike: </div>
<div>I see the argument for a smoother transition between 402
and 403 and in the context of the overall progression through the
classes it is probably a valid one, especially for the Intermediate guy
coming up. Personally, though, I am glad for the leap I am going
through in the current 403 - Advanced and can´t wait to go up to
Masters, which I now see as more of a logical step up, rather than the
big, intentional, leap it will be in the future. </div>
<div>Good job guys.</div>
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<div>Rodney <br>
<br>
<b><i>Mike Hester <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kerlock@comcast.net"><kerlock@comcast.net></a></i></b> wrote:</div>
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Bill said.<br>
<br>
We had 2 choices to smooth out that huge leap between 402 and 403: make
402 <br>
tougher or make 403 slightly easier. The overwhelming majority was
against <br>
making 402 any tougher, so we went this way. Like Bill said, look at
the <br>
schedules in relation to each other and consider that carefully before <br>
anyone votes on them. There are a couple of ways we could end up with a
<br>
worse problem than we currently have. My hope is everyone will put a
lot of <br>
thought into their choices. I'm reminded of teh old knight at the end
of <br>
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade....."choose wisely". Look what
happened <br>
to the guy that picked the wrong one. Eek.<br>
<br>
-Mike<br>
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From: "Bill Pritchett" <PHELPS15 @comcast.net=""><br>
To: <DISCUSSION @nsrca.org=""><br>
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:03 PM<br>
Subject: New Sequences<br>
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> Rodney:<br>
> Both proposed Advanced schedules are "easier" than the current
Advanced <br>
> schedule. This was one of the criteria that we worked with, based
upon <br>
> overwhelming opinion that the jump to Advanced is currently too
much. I <br>
> like both schedules (not because I'm on the committee...hehe), but
what <br>
> this WILL do is make the jump to Masters much bigger for the guys
that <br>
> will come through these schedules. I am sort of a victim of having
made <br>
> the current jump, and now that I've made it, felt that I could
objectively <br>
> help others coming up in seasons to come not deal with some of the
issues <br>
> current Advanced flyers have had to handle. Our current schedule
calls <br>
> for 10 maneuvers prior to a cross box turnaround. Although there
is <br>
> discussion on the list right now about being on that "line", and a
cross <br>
> box being a bother, let's face it, most Advanced flyers need to
adjust <br>
> in/out earlier than 10 maneuvers in. Lots of thought and
discussion went <br>
> into these, and I'm sure that everyone on the committee hopes that
the <br>
> NSRCA membership takes a deep collective breath before making any <br>
> judgments. One thing we all tried to do is make it more even in
jumps <br>
> between classes, up to Masters. We all seemed to agree that
Masters <br>
> should be the "big" jump, and a jump that provides a class of <br>
> "Destination" for some, and FAI prep for others. I hope that you,
and <br>
> others, will look at the proposed Advanced schedule as a part of
the <br>
> whole, and not a direct comparison to the present.<br>
> Thanks<br>
> Bill<br>
><br>
><br>
> Bill Pritchett<br>
> 765-744-9322<br>
><br>
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