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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best of luck--Break-a-leg. Let us know how it
goes. I may try the brake 'off' this weekend and the slider may be good
for a quick response and I may try that also. Thanks. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PS Be sure to range check with the motor
running at all throttle settings and warn your holder that it might start WITH
FORCE and to be prepared for it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 10, 2005 10:36
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Electric Weight: with or
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Hi Richard,</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I will be maidening it tomorrow, or
Sunday depending the weather here (tropical storm). I set the speed
controller with the brake off. On the Futaba 9WCII, I set the idle on
the left slider. I'm anticipating moving the slider up for flight, I was
thinking around 300-500 rpms for idle. I'm looking forward to flying it
this weekend. The Hacker C50 14 XL produces tons of power on the ground.
</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Jim</FONT> <BR><FONT
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size=2>Jim, I'm at 11-2.5+/-(gotta get a better scale) using pretty standard
stuff--but Kokam 3200s(not quite enough capacity--but close), I can gain a bit
with a ni-mah? or lipo rec. pack and I've got an ancient Fut. pcm rec. in it
that could be upgraded--plus the items you mentioned. But as I've
mentioned--the wing panels weigh a ton--they were like 14.5 oz out of the box
ea. 9151s all around and seem to work well--thrown my timing off a
little as they are even a little slower than the 9150s and quite a bit slower
than the 9154s in the Temp. Got about 15 flights and sorting rates,
throws, expo, cg, rigging, etc.--probably NOT the thing to do two weeks before
our local contest! It seems a little 'dancy' in rough air (that's all
I've had since flt. 1), but I'm hesitant to mess with it TOO much as it
knife-edged with no coupling(s) right off both ways. The torquey? servos
might account for some of it as I may have been getting a little
blow-back--absorbing some of my input(s) on others--or possibly I'm chasing
things a bit. More time needed. Where are you setting your
idle?--if I set it where it will staying running all the way through the
flight--then it's too fast for downlines--too low and it stops altogether at
times. Does that match your experience--or do we turn off the brake?
I know it's a 'wide-body'--but it's clean!</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard</FONT> <BR><FONT
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size=3><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 10, 2005 8:48 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=3><B>Subject:</B> Re: Electric Weight: with or without batteries at US
Nationals</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>RS - Although I have
taken GREAT care with the airframe weight of the Impact, I have used a
non-exotic equipment list, so I am at 11 lbs, 4.5 oz with 6000 mah TP packs
(2, 5S,3P). I did not use aluminum wheel axles, nor replace the wheel
pants, nor replace the heavy wing tube. Also, I used the Futaba 9152
monster servo for the rudder. Also, I'm using the stock steel prop nut
and spinner jam nut. So, I used very standard equipment, and still came
close to making the weight. A quick solution is to purchase (if
available), the 5300 mah packs, which in itself drops 4-5 oz I've heard.
Dropping even 5 oz may be possible just with some equipment changes.
The airframe really not going to get any lighter, except some more
trimming of the chin cowl flanges. I'm happy with the build and got
close to the weight limit with a very standard equipment set. Also,
using the 2 cell Li-ion, 2200 mah battery. </FONT><FONT
size=3><BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>I've heard that they may
change the electric weighing procedures such that the battery is removed at
this years nats, but looking for confirmation before I spend a bunch more
cash.</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR>Thanks,</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR>Jim</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR><BR>James Woodward<BR>Program Manager<BR>B/E Aerospace Business Jet
Group - Miami<BR>9100 N.W. 105th Circle<BR>Miami, FL 33178<BR>(305) 459-7155
Office<BR>(305) 459-7185 Fax<BR>(954) 319-0873
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size=3><BR><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>ALUMINUM servo screws?
Man, you must REALLY be close!?!</FONT><FONT size=3>
<BR> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>RS</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR>-----
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Friday, June 10, 2005 7:56 AM <B><BR>Subject:</B> Electric Weight: with or
without batteries at UN Nationals <BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR><BR>Hi All,</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR><BR>Does anyone happen to know what the weighing policy will be for
electric planes at the nats (with or without batteries)?</FONT><FONT size=3>
</FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR><BR>Also - does anyone know the source
for aluminum servo screws?</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR><BR>Thanks,</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
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