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<DIV>In a message dated 6/10/2005 7:03:40 PM Central Daylight Time,
tkeithb@comcast.net writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK, so you're saying if the wind doesn't shift
then the pilot can't land in the opposite direction. What if there is just a
breath of wind at take-off and the pilot flies with the wind, but at landing
the wind has picked up significantly? Do you stand by the rule and insist that
the wind direction didn't change and now the pilot must land with the wind or
get a zero?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, I'm not trying to be difficult, just trying
to anticipate the arguments and problems that may raise their heads once this
rule is passed. Let's cover all the bases before putting any language in
place. And let's also be sure we are comfortable with all possible
consequences.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=mailto:vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van
Putte</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 10, 2005 2:46
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Landing Direction</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>On Jun 10, 2005, at 1:35 PM, Keith Black wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I'm in favor of the
proposal for safety in the case the wind direction changes, but I'd like
to bring something up that I've seen occur. Some pilots are much more
comfortable flying one direction than the other and therefore will
sometimes choose to take-off in the same direction as the wind, especially
in a light wind.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Is
the spirit of this rule change to allow someone who took off with the wind
to reverse landing direction? If not I think we could get into a lot of
"hair splitting" when the pilot asks the judges if he can land in the
reverse direction. Will the judges remember what way the wind was blowing
(especially if the winds were light when the pilot took off)? Will other
competitors observer the situation and be upset? If the judges refuse for
any reason how upset will the pilot be if he dorks his $2500 plane? Will
this rule lead to pilots not practicing the pattern both directions as
much, especially in the lower classes where wind direction doesn't matter
as much?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Currently
if a pilot has a weak flight direction and chooses to fly with the wind
their "penalty" and incentive for not doing so is having to make a hot
down wind landing (which I've seen
plenty).<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Over
all I like the idea but want to avoid any unexpected side-effects of the
rules change.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If the wind
doesn't shift, the rule wouldn't apply. I think having the judges give
permission is important; it precludes someone trying to finesse the
situation. We trust judges to score flights, so I think it's reasonable to
expect they will know which way a pilot took off and which way the wind was
blowing when he did.<BR><BR><BR>Ron Van Putte<BR><BR><BR>
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Friday, June 10, 2005 10:08 AM<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>Subject:<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily></B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>
Landing Direction<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>Based on the
positive response on the proposed change to landing direction, I sent my
draft landing direction rule change proposal to John Fuqua, the Contest
Board chairman, and he replied:<BR><BR>"How about this. Suggest
you put this as para 6.7 which is the 'Safety Requirements"
section. <BR><BR>"Normally landing would be as per paragraph 14.1
regarding Direction of Flight. However, when a wind shift results
in a downwind landing that creates a hazard to people or
the aircraft, subject to the approval of the judges, the landing
direction may be reversed.<BR><BR>(or maybe)<BR><BR>"Normally landing
would be as per paragraph 14.1 regarding Direction of Flight.
However, subject to the approval of the judges, the landing direction
may be reversed when a wind shift results in a downwind
landing that creates a hazard to people or the
aircraft."<BR><BR>I prefer the second one and will make an Emergency
Proposal as soon as I can put it together.<BR><BR>Ron Van
Putte</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV>How about Take off and landing pilots choice.Pure and simple.</DIV>
<DIV>Buddy</DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>