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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bingo Bob.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=rcaerobob@cox.net href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 10, 2005 9:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Landing Direction</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This would be a "non-problem" if Landings were
NOT SCORED at all, too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just another angle to "simplifying" the
game...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the landing wasn't even scored, it would NOT
matter what direction it was executed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A><BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A></DIV>
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<A title=tkeithb@comcast.net href="mailto:tkeithb@comcast.net">Keith
Black</A> </DIV>
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href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 10, 2005 7:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Landing Direction</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK, so you're saying if the wind doesn't shift
then the pilot can't land in the opposite direction. What if there is just a
breath of wind at take-off and the pilot flies with the wind, but at landing
the wind has picked up significantly? Do you stand by the rule and insist
that the wind direction didn't change and now the pilot must land with the
wind or get a zero?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, I'm not trying to be difficult, just
trying to anticipate the arguments and problems that may raise their heads
once this rule is passed. Let's cover all the bases before putting any
language in place. And let's also be sure we are comfortable with all
possible consequences.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van Putte</A>
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href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 10, 2005 2:46
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Landing Direction</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>On Jun 10, 2005, at 1:35 PM, Keith Black wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I'm in favor of the
proposal for safety in the case the wind direction changes, but I'd like
to bring something up that I've seen occur. Some pilots are much more
comfortable flying one direction than the other and therefore will
sometimes choose to take-off in the same direction as the wind,
especially in a light wind.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Is
the spirit of this rule change to allow someone who took off with the
wind to reverse landing direction? If not I think we could get into a
lot of "hair splitting" when the pilot asks the judges if he can land in
the reverse direction. Will the judges remember what way the wind was
blowing (especially if the winds were light when the pilot took off)?
Will other competitors observer the situation and be upset? If the
judges refuse for any reason how upset will the pilot be if he dorks his
$2500 plane? Will this rule lead to pilots not practicing the pattern
both directions as much, especially in the lower classes where wind
direction doesn't matter as much?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Currently
if a pilot has a weak flight direction and chooses to fly with the wind
their "penalty" and incentive for not doing so is having to make a hot
down wind landing (which I've seen
plenty).<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Over
all I like the idea but want to avoid any unexpected side-effects of the
rules change.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If the wind
doesn't shift, the rule wouldn't apply. I think having the judges give
permission is important; it precludes someone trying to finesse the
situation. We trust judges to score flights, so I think it's reasonable to
expect they will know which way a pilot took off and which way the wind
was blowing when he did.<BR><BR><BR>Ron Van Putte<BR><BR><BR>
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Landing Direction<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>Based on the
positive response on the proposed change to landing direction, I sent
my draft landing direction rule change proposal to John Fuqua, the
Contest Board chairman, and he replied:<BR><BR>"How about this.
Suggest you put this as para 6.7 which is the 'Safety Requirements"
section. <BR><BR>"Normally landing would be as per paragraph 14.1
regarding Direction of Flight. However, when a wind shift
results in a downwind landing that creates a hazard to
people or the aircraft, subject to the approval of the judges, the
landing direction may be reversed.<BR><BR>(or maybe)<BR><BR>"Normally
landing would be as per paragraph 14.1 regarding Direction of
Flight. However, subject to the approval of the judges, the
landing direction may be reversed when a wind shift results
in a downwind landing that creates a hazard to people
or the aircraft."<BR><BR>I prefer the second one and will make an
Emergency Proposal as soon as I can put it together.<BR><BR>Ron Van
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