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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK, so you're saying if the wind doesn't shift then
the pilot can't land in the opposite direction. What if there is just a breath
of wind at take-off and the pilot flies with the wind, but at landing the wind
has picked up significantly? Do you stand by the rule and insist that the wind
direction didn't change and now the pilot must land with the wind or get a
zero?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, I'm not trying to be difficult, just trying to
anticipate the arguments and problems that may raise their heads once this rule
is passed. Let's cover all the bases before putting any language in place. And
let's also be sure we are comfortable with all possible
consequences.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van Putte</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 10, 2005 2:46 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Landing Direction</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>On Jun 10, 2005, at 1:35 PM, Keith Black wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I'm in favor of the
proposal for safety in the case the wind direction changes, but I'd like to
bring something up that I've seen occur. Some pilots are much more
comfortable flying one direction than the other and therefore will sometimes
choose to take-off in the same direction as the wind, especially in a light
wind.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Is
the spirit of this rule change to allow someone who took off with the wind
to reverse landing direction? If not I think we could get into a lot of
"hair splitting" when the pilot asks the judges if he can land in the
reverse direction. Will the judges remember what way the wind was blowing
(especially if the winds were light when the pilot took off)? Will other
competitors observer the situation and be upset? If the judges refuse for
any reason how upset will the pilot be if he dorks his $2500 plane? Will
this rule lead to pilots not practicing the pattern both directions as much,
especially in the lower classes where wind direction doesn't matter as much?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Currently
if a pilot has a weak flight direction and chooses to fly with the wind
their "penalty" and incentive for not doing so is having to make a hot down
wind landing (which I've seen
plenty).<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Over
all I like the idea but want to avoid any unexpected side-effects of the
rules change.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If the wind doesn't
shift, the rule wouldn't apply. I think having the judges give permission is
important; it precludes someone trying to finesse the situation. We trust
judges to score flights, so I think it's reasonable to expect they will know
which way a pilot took off and which way the wind was blowing when he
did.<BR><BR><BR>Ron Van Putte<BR><BR><BR>
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Landing Direction<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>Based on the
positive response on the proposed change to landing direction, I sent my
draft landing direction rule change proposal to John Fuqua, the Contest
Board chairman, and he replied:<BR><BR>"How about this. Suggest you
put this as para 6.7 which is the 'Safety Requirements"
section. <BR><BR>"Normally landing would be as per paragraph 14.1
regarding Direction of Flight. However, when a wind shift results
in a downwind landing that creates a hazard to people or
the aircraft, subject to the approval of the judges, the landing direction
may be reversed.<BR><BR>(or maybe)<BR><BR>"Normally landing would be as
per paragraph 14.1 regarding Direction of Flight. However, subject
to the approval of the judges, the landing direction may be reversed when
a wind shift results in a downwind landing that creates
a hazard to people or the aircraft."<BR><BR>I prefer the second one
and will make an Emergency Proposal as soon as I can put it
together.<BR><BR>Ron Van
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