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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I think we should stop scoring spins and
snaps, also. What do you guys think?? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Keith L. Hoard<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=3
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style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>, <st1:State w:st="on">TN</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Keith Black<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 13, 2005 10:19
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">discussion@nsrca.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Landing Direction</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Marguerite,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Actually, I don't think you're alone on this issue. The
NSRCA poll showed overwhelmingly that the membership wanted scored t/o and
landings as did the public outcry after the majority's desires were
disregarded. Apparently even the contest board would have voted to keep the old
rule but the question was worded in such a way to confuse two of the contest
board members. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Now that the new messed up rule has caused so much confusion
I think everyone is getting so fed-up with it that many would rather have
nothing at all than what we have now. To me this has more to do with being sick
of all the ridiculous discussions than a real desire of pattern pilots to not
score t/o and landings.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I for one have been paying attention to take-offs and
landings this year and find it a real shame that we don't have those beautiful
centered liftoffs and gentle climb outs. The new guys coming into sportsman
will miss out on this discipline.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Keith<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:MargueriteVG@aol.com" title="MargueriteVG@aol.com">MargueriteVG@aol.com</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:patternrules@earthlink.net" title="patternrules@earthlink.net">patternrules@earthlink.net</a>
; <a href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org" title="discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday, June 13,
2005 8:58 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: Landing
Direction<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Good Morning...... oh oh here goes...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> I agree it is important to encourage good landings and
take and I will add to your
statement... why not all classes with take off and
landing. Yes, for the most part the pilots in the higher classes will ace
the landing. I have seen the higher classes mess up on the landings
(yes and almost hit me while I was in a contest flying)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> Take off and landing perfectly all the time is the
goal for any pilot. This seems to be getting so involved. I know I am out
for the most part alone on this issue and that is fine with
me. ITs just that I would like to see the pattern community
respect this issue and set a good example for all pilots joining on to
Precision Aerobatics.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> A well done take off and a well done landing is
certainly part of flying aerobatic competition in all classes. Its the
start ... and it should be. I was glad to see someone out there was
thinking along the same lines here. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Marguerite<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>In a message dated 6/13/2005 8:23:28 AM Eastern Standard
Time, patternrules@earthlink.net writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> Personally Jerry, I'd like to see us score landings and take offs
for<br>
Sportsman and Intermediate. Given the k-factor of their total schedule<br>
it's a meaningful part, and the ability to land well in a high crosswind is<br>
something they'll need to be comfortable with, so it's worth rewarding ann<br>
motivating the practice required to do it well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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