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<DIV>My bet is that the class winners will always have near perfect takeoffs -
whether part of the judging criteria or not, the judges do have to watch, and a
really nice takeoff sets the stage for a quality flight. And I bet the
class winners will have near perfect landings for the same reason - never let
the judges see anything less than your best.</DIV>
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<DIV>Dave</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tkeithb@comcast.net href="mailto:tkeithb@comcast.net">Keith Black</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 13, 2005 11:18
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Landing Direction</DIV>
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<DIV>Marguerite,</DIV>
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<DIV>Actually, I don't think you're alone on this issue. The NSRCA poll showed
overwhelmingly that the membership wanted scored t/o and landings as did the
public outcry after the majority's desires were disregarded. Apparently even
the contest board would have voted to keep the old rule but the question was
worded in such a way to confuse two of the contest board members. </DIV>
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<DIV>Now that the new messed up rule has caused so much confusion I think
everyone is getting so fed-up with it that many would rather have nothing at
all than what we have now. To me this has more to do with being sick of all
the ridiculous discussions than a real desire of pattern pilots to not score
t/o and landings.</DIV>
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<DIV>I for one have been paying attention to take-offs and landings this year
and find it a real shame that we don't have those beautiful centered liftoffs
and gentle climb outs. The new guys coming into sportsman will miss out on
this discipline.</DIV>
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<DIV>Keith</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=MargueriteVG@aol.com
href="mailto:MargueriteVG@aol.com">MargueriteVG@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=patternrules@earthlink.net
href="mailto:patternrules@earthlink.net">patternrules@earthlink.net</A> ; <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 13, 2005 8:58
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Landing Direction</DIV>
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<DIV>Good Morning...... oh oh here goes...</DIV>
<DIV> I agree it is important to encourage good landings and take
and I will add to your statement... why not all classes
with take off and landing. Yes, for the most part the pilots in the
higher classes will ace the landing. I have seen the higher
classes mess up on the landings (yes and almost hit me while I was in a
contest flying)</DIV>
<DIV> Take off and landing perfectly all the time is the goal for any
pilot. This seems to be getting so involved. I know I am out for the
most part alone on this issue and that is fine with me. ITs
just that I would like to see the pattern community respect this issue
and set a good example for all pilots joining on to Precision
Aerobatics.</DIV>
<DIV> A well done take off and a well done landing is certainly part
of flying aerobatic competition in all classes. Its the start ... and
it should be. I was glad to see someone out there was thinking along
the same lines here. </DIV>
<DIV>Marguerite</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 6/13/2005 8:23:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
patternrules@earthlink.net writes:</DIV>
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face=Arial>> Personally Jerry, I'd like to see us score landings
and take offs for<BR>Sportsman and Intermediate. Given the k-factor
of their total schedule<BR>it's a meaningful part, and the ability to land
well in a high crosswind is<BR>something they'll need to be comfortable
with, so it's worth rewarding ann<BR>motivating the practice required to
do it well.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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