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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I can’t say I disagree BUT…
can we really say we’re not grumpy rule book carrying cutthroats when I
can print off a 300 email thread arguing about how to do a stupid take-off??? And
of course we all know the rules…if you don’t…you’re
pretty much guaranteed a zero NOT for your flying…but for some
meaningless procedural infraction. Let’s face it…we’re
all (myself included) just a tad more anal than the IMAC crew.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ve flown both and I have to say,
the Imac events are a blast. Low key, very unintimidating for the first
timer, and while I agree..the “help” was maybe lacking, the need
for help seemed less too as the planes are imminently more durable. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ed Deaver<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 25, 2005 6:11
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">discussion@nsrca.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Does Pattern
competition cost too much?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>PERCEPTION is the key word to me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Having flown both IMAC and Pattern competitively this is still what I
see.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Pattern is PERCEIVED as a bunch of grumpy, rule book carrying,
cutthroat pilots flying expensive, speciallized and hard to get planes
that are only good for one thing, Pattern. I know this not to be true,
but this is the perception. You can build from start, a competitive
Pattern plane through FAI for $2-2.5K.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>IMAC is PERCEIVED as a bunch of fun loving, 3D'ing, laid back group of
pilots being able to fly any plane.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Truth of course is any plane only works for the prodigy, and in Basic,
but can be flown in Pattern also. A 40% is going to run you $7K minimum,
with some vehicle and possibly trailer to fly. I have had 10 or more
Pattern guys offer help when something breaks at a pattern contest, and at an
IMAC contest, out of 40 pilots, only 1 will offer help. Most IMAC guys
don't even know the rules, whereas almost all Pattern pilots know the
rules. But are willing to help anyone.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>In my experience the PERCEPTIONS are completely backwards, but
perception is reality!!!!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If we work to change the perception we will succeed in getting more
people to fly pattern. But, look at the discussions on this list about
miniscule details, and it is easy to see why some say what they say.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Lastly, the way pilots are treated at contests was brought up to
me. Going to a contest, and not having to sit in the "chair" is
a big factor. It was stated, feeling as though the club was grateful you
came, as opposed to making a pilot work for coming to the contest. Not
sure I totally agree, but that is what I was told.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Food for thought.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>ed<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>"J.Oddino"
<joddino@socal.rr.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>From time to time I hear folks suggesting the reason the
number of contestants is down is due to the high cost of pattern planes and
support equipment. Well I don't believe that is the reason. This
weekend I went to a relatively local IMAC contest in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Camarillo</st1:City> <st1:State w:st="on">California</st1:State></st1:place>
and there were somthing like 61 preregistered and 56 actually flying. I'd
guess 80% of the planes were 40% scale, meaning they had $1500 engines and
$3000 airframes and $1500 worth of servos. Then you've got the motor
homes and trucks and trailers to transport them. I still say the highest
cost of flying is the driving to and from the field and that is probably why
the park flyers are so popular. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>So what is the reason for the drop in attendance and the
drop in the number of pattern contests? Or is that only in <st1:place
w:st="on">Southern California</st1:place>?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Jim O</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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