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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There's certainly an element of "welcome" that's an
important part of successful contests (pattern or otherwise). We're fortunate to
have gracious and enthusiastic hosts in D6. I've been to less friendly meets -
once - in other parts of the country, they don't last. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just to ensure that there's no misunderstanding,
the work ethic I mentioned in a previous post applies to aerobatics, not just
pattern. The IMAC folks have even more to work on than pattern enthusiasts and
we've a local stunt guy that seems to fly 24/7.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We do work too hard at contests - we've
brought it upon ourselves with contestant judging. But contestant judging is
generally far better than that received from inexperienced and/or disinterested
local judges. We need to apply technology to judging to lighten the work load
and increase accuracy! Forget the notion that the judge can't / shouldn't have
an advantage over the pilot, the game is (should be) about precision flying -
not snowing the judges. I'm sure that current technology exists that can be
developed into a system for computer scoring of precision / geometry, position,
and size. "People" judges might still be used for smoothness and gracefulness, a
much easier job than the gory details of the rest of judging. Just think, at
most events one could relax, maybe even fly at the Nats without judging!
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 25, 2005 11:29
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [SPAM] Re: Does Pattern
competition cost too much?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Another good example of contest management
stuff....The IMAC group out there doesn't have the catalyst and the pattern
group does!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have been to the Omaha contest a couple times
in the past and they put on a great event and treat you like a really
welcome guest. If the other events out there are the same type of thing then
that's a good sign for pattern flying in the area.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Troy</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=vicenterc@comcast.net
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href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> ; <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=pattern4u@comcast.net
href="mailto:pattern4u@comcast.net">Grow Pattern</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 25, 2005 2:51
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Does Pattern competition
cost too much?</DIV>
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<DIV>300 miles around Kansas City we have 8 pattern contests. IMAC
used to have one in Kansas City but has been canceled this year.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Does anyone know how many IMAC contests there
are relative to the same geo-area where pattern contests are
run?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=joddino@socal.rr.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 25, 2005 5:40
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Does Pattern competition
cost too much?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From time to time I hear folks suggesting
the reason the number of contestants is down is due to the high cost of
pattern planes and support equipment. Well I don't believe that is
the reason. This weekend I went to a relatively local IMAC contest
in Camarillo California and there were somthing like 61 preregistered
and 56 actually flying. I'd guess 80% of the planes were 40%
scale, meaning they had $1500 engines and $3000 airframes and $1500
worth of servos. Then you've got the motor homes and trucks and
trailers to transport them. I still say the highest cost of flying
is the driving to and from the field and that is probably why the park
flyers are so popular. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So what is the reason for the drop in
attendance and the drop in the number of pattern contests? Or is
that only in Southern California?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim
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