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Hey,
<BR>I filled out the Survey yesterday and it's currently sitting in the
mailbox awaiting the mailman.
<BR>I studied the sequences pretty carefully and thought that they were
well thought out and seemed to me that they would be quite stimulating
to perform.
<BR>I specifically thought that the Advanced sequence was an improvement
over the round and round of Immelmans, Double Immelmans, Bunts of the current
schedule which is the reason I skipped it. The new schedule is very interesting
and has a great mix of precision elements.
<BR>If you think it's too easy, that should be a blessing as you can probably
expect to complete several contests in first place............what a nice
problem.
<BR>G.
<P>Troy A. Newman wrote:
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#2 Please send your comments after completely looking over the following
below.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>OK
Now how did the sequences come out:</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Option
A: KF of 49 contains 1 K5 figure. Its at the open so the pilot is truly
setup for it.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>1.
Slow roll has it</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>2. 4pt roll
has it</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>3. Negative G elements
or inverted exits...No inverted exits...but the Figure M has a huge inverted
pushing element that requires the model to negative loop at center and
is a very complex figure for any sequence even FAI level., Bunt 1/2 roll
out again negative push is the major element and the roll from inverted
is a skill building element also. Humpty pull-push 1/2 roll down similar
negative G element in it at the top. 1/2 square 2/4pt up is a push to level
at the top again a negative push to exit a figure. Along with the 1/2 square
1/2 roll up. 2 outside loops from the top, and the square loop with 1/2's
legs 1 and 3 give equal exposure to positive and negative G elements. So
even though there is not an inverted exit there are many pushes in common
figures that build the skills of pushing out of or within a figure that
just don't require a level inverted flight between figures. In fact this
sequence is a little heavier than we planned on negative G elements but
it is short on negative exits...Its always a trade off and we tried to
give the best figures to teach the skills and present a common element
to the judges for what they have seen before and reduce the introduction
of gotcha figures where the pilot made a bad choice and is screwed or the
judge is trying to figure out is he suppose to be inverted or upright.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>4.
Min of 1 snap max of 2 This has 2 just like the current Advanced</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>5.
Figure 8 in this one its missing instead a complex figure M is taking its
place</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>6. 2 cross box elements
2 top hat with 1/4 and humpty with options</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>7.
One figure that requires reverse rolling or thinking about roll directions
Figure M has this also...the middle of all M's must be inverted thru center.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>8.
2 stall turns We have 3 two of them are in the figure M and 1 is
a stall turn with 1/2's</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>So
you see this sequence does a pretty good job of filling the criteria we
setup. There are some things that it may be missing but we feel it made
up for many of them in other ways. Also note that a figure M does a bunch
of teach of the skills...stall turns, inverted push thru the middle, centering
of the figure, centering of 4 different roll elements, radii concerns on
positive and negative corners, and roll direction thinking and looks. I
have never felt the Figure M is a laughing and weak figure to perform there
are just too many elements including matching positive and negative corners
as well as all the other stuff above. This is a make or break figure in
any sequence.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Now
Option B: KF of 48 missing the K5 in this one though and also missing
in the current ADV.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>1.
Slow roll got it</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>2. 4pt roll
got it</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>3. Inverted elements
outside 6 sided from the top. That is 6 outside corners to a defined 60
degree angle from the last line. This is a good workout on pushing to a
line. Triangle loop full roll on top gives an inverted to inverted roll
element, similar to an inverted exit and similar to the double I in the
current sequence with a full roll on the bottom...this one is just up and
the top of the box. Bunt 1/2 roll out again rolling from inverted this
time at the bottom of the box. Then the 1/2 squares with 1/2 roll up and
2/4pt up give push tops for negative G corners to the exit...This sequence
is a little lighter on the negative G elements but they are not missing.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>4.
Min of 1 and max of 2 Snaps again two same as the current sequence</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>5.
At Least 1 Figure 8 vertical-horizontal or Cuban Yes has a Reverse Cuban
8 with 1/2 rolls</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>6. At Least
2 cross box elements Yes humpty with options and a top hat with 1/4's</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>7.
1 figure that require reverse rolling or thinking about roll directions
The opening Stall turn has 3/4 rolls up and down, so the rolls would be
reversed and requires thinking about roll direction.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>8.
At Least 2 stall turns Yes 2 stall turns One Higher KF in the center and
one turnaround.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Results
the Option B is a little lighter in terms of inverted pushes but its still
got 3-4 of them that are placed in a skill building sequence.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>The
comment was brought about the Diamond 8 in the Masters sequence of today
that the new advanced doesn't address this skill and we feel it does. The
figure M, the six sided outside loop the Pull-push humpty the bunts and
the inverted rolling elements like the triangle with full roll and the
bunts address the skills needed for this figure. Also the Diamond or square
on corner and triangle address the 45 degree lines does this well
too. And then the square with 1/2 rolls on legs 1 and 3 also addresses
this skill group of mixed corners positive and negative with the same figure.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>I
know that some of you may not disagree with this logic above and that's
OK...we can't please everyone. If you are not happy with the options Vote
NO change. I'm not here to argue the points. Many will disagree with
the results. These results are in a survey and for that reason you
have the right to vote either way. You also have the right to submit something
you feel is better. The grouped worked hard on the results and to try and
fill all of the elements in the design criteria some may argue on how we
did that. I commend each member of the group on the effort and the result
they gave. Obviously some give more than others but we are standing behind
the work as a group. I would be happy to address any other sequence questions.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Thanks
for the your time</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Troy Newman</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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