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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hmmmmm.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, in many respects, an individual proposal does
get the same attention and consideration as a group proposal - not necessarily a
good thing (clearly a bad thing in my opinion).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don't forget the substantial controversies and
confusion created by recent (and historic) individual proposals.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rcaerobob@cox.net href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sequence comments</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's also important to remind everyone that
ANYONE may submit a sequence proposal as a bona-fide rule change to the AMA,
following the guidelines.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If what the sequence committees came up with
doesn't suit you, build and submit your own. Gets equal attention and
consideration by the Contest Board, don't forget.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A><BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net
href="mailto:JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net">Jerry Stebbins</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:31
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Sequence comments</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kieth, not necessarily. If a bunch of folks
have valid concerns, it makes no sense to not listen to them. If you
are concerned enough to feel that way, get a bunch of people to fly them and
see if they come to the same position, and let your DVP's know NOW. TheDVP's
can suggest changes in response to valid, properly supported issues, that a
bunch of pilots test and agree need to be fixed. It still could
be fixed, but only with faith that the Sequence Teams understand the issues
people have, and then they can do their best to fix them before it goes
to AMA. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Sequence Teams have done a great job
based on where they were trying to get to. If the majority think something
needs fixen, and they can convince their DVP, it could be done.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tkeithb@comcast.net href="mailto:tkeithb@comcast.net">Keith
Black</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Nats Judging Rebate-keep
their best SCORE!</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Interesting you bring this up. I've spoken to
first year intermediate pilots that plan to move to Advanced next year
even though they really would be better off flying another year in
Intermediate. Their reason is that they want a year of practice with the
current Advanced sequence with the inverted exits and pushes to prepare
for Masters and feel the 2007 advanced sequences are too easy.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As I stated before, I've flown both of the
proposed Advanced sequences and I thought they were terrific patterns that
flow very well, however, they are easier than the current pattern. I think
these excellent patterns could be easily fixed to include inverted
maneuvers and still take advantage of the majority of the
work. However, at this point I think that's water under the bridge.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith Black</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=amad2terry@juno.com href="mailto:amad2terry@juno.com">Terry
Terrenoire</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:27
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Nats Judging
Rebate-keep their best SCORE!</DIV>
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<DIV>This IS published in advance, and all pilots know it, so there is
no problem, at least there was not in the 7 years I was involved. We
certainly do not need more rules!!!! Especially a national rule that
pertains to just one, 4 day event a year!</DIV>
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<DIV>While on the subject of rules changes. A while ago I commented
on the "dumbing down" of the Advance pattern, and had just one or two
comments. How many of you Advance fliers think that it is prudent to go
from 4 inverted maneuvers to NONE. How is that possibly going to prepare
you for the difficulty of Masters??? Have any of you even looked at the
proposal? How many of you have flown the 2 proposed schedules?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Sure would like to hear some comments from other Advance and
Masters pilots, pro or con!!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Terry T.</DIV>
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