<DIV>I summitted 2 advanced sequences for 2007, an they both got shot down.</DIV>
<DIV>If the flyer think, that the current proposal for advance is to easy, Troy</DIV>
<DIV>should post the sequences that where summitted by the Advance Committe</DIV>
<DIV>members on the discussion list, An let the flyer, pick the sequencethat they</DIV>
<DIV>would like to fly in 07.<BR><BR><B><I>Bob Pastorello <rcaerobob@cox.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's also important to remind everyone that ANYONE may submit a sequence proposal as a bona-fide rule change to the AMA, following the guidelines.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If what the sequence committees came up with doesn't suit you, build and submit your own. Gets equal attention and consideration by the Contest Board, don't forget.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR><A href="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A><BR><A href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net href="mailto:JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net">Jerry Stebbins</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Sequence comments</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kieth, not necessarily. If a bunch of folks have valid concerns, it makes no sense to not listen to them. If you are concerned enough to feel that way, get a bunch of people to fly them and see if they come to the same position, and let your DVP's know NOW. TheDVP's can suggest changes in response to valid, properly supported issues, that a bunch of pilots test and agree need to be fixed. It still could be fixed, but only with faith that the Sequence Teams understand the issues people have, and then they can do their best to fix them before it goes to AMA. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Sequence Teams have done a great job based on where they were trying to get to. If the majority think something needs fixen, and they can convince their DVP, it could be done. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tkeithb@comcast.net href="mailto:tkeithb@comcast.net">Keith Black</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Nats Judging Rebate-keep their best SCORE!</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Interesting you bring this up. I've spoken to first year intermediate pilots that plan to move to Advanced next year even though they really would be better off flying another year in Intermediate. Their reason is that they want a year of practice with the current Advanced sequence with the inverted exits and pushes to prepare for Masters and feel the 2007 advanced sequences are too easy. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As I stated before, I've flown both of the proposed Advanced sequences and I thought they were terrific patterns that flow very well, however, they are easier than the current pattern. I think these excellent patterns could be easily fixed to include inverted maneuvers and still take advantage of the majority of the work. However, at this point I think that's water under the bridge. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith Black</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=amad2terry@juno.com href="mailto:amad2terry@juno.com">Terry Terrenoire</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:27 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Nats Judging Rebate-keep their best SCORE!</DIV>
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<DIV>This IS published in advance, and all pilots know it, so there is no problem, at least there was not in the 7 years I was involved. We certainly do not need more rules!!!! Especially a national rule that pertains to just one, 4 day event a year!</DIV>
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<DIV>While on the subject of rules changes. A while ago I commented on the "dumbing down" of the Advance pattern, and had just one or two comments. How many of you Advance fliers think that it is prudent to go from 4 inverted maneuvers to NONE. How is that possibly going to prepare you for the difficulty of Masters??? Have any of you even looked at the proposal? How many of you have flown the 2 proposed schedules?</DIV>
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<DIV> Sure would like to hear some comments from other Advance and Masters pilots, pro or con!!</DIV>
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<DIV>Terry T.</DIV>
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