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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm with you on this John. In fact we have a whole
bunch of "lessons learned" to look at for a whole year. Dave has started his
planning this week. One thing that would change the logistics a lot would
be full or part time judges.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you do the math you have the
following-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3 judges x 2 flightlines = 6 per site x
3 sites = 18 in the morning and a new 18 in the afternoon = 36 judges to do just
one day. Three days of that is 108 judges. If you start with 107
pilots you need help. If you lose a pilot for whatever reason you need
help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I take my hat off to any pilot who flies and
judges more than 1/2 a day. You can say goodbye to any practicing, burn out your
eyes and completely mess up your concentration. I know from personal
experience of just doing one morning of 20 masters pilots I had to "re-program"
for while before I flew my own rounds.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I also take my hat of to Dave and his predecessors
who have made this all work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then don't forget Don Ramsey who has to run around
finding twenty plus judges for the Thursday finals!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=johnferrell@earthlink.net
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">John Ferrell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:56
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Nats Judging Rebate</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The problem of judging no-shows is in the CD's
domain. Only he can really address it. It escapes me how a contestant can get
to the line without getting the contestant package. No contestant ID = no
fly!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Although it appears that contest management could
reassign no-show slots on Sunday night, it does not create an unreasonable
delay on Monday morning. Things are pretty hectic from Sunday afternoon until
mid morning on Monday. Much of the time contestants are delayed by travel
problems or by personal/family problems. Why further add to their woes? There
will always be a few last minute problems to be resolved.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Nats are a very big deal to a lot of people.
Dreams are both fulfilled and shattered. Most contestants are in a high
adrenaline state. While failing to fulfill a judging assignment is an
inconvenience to contest management, it is time of crisis for the contestants
whose expectations have been shattered. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As a Line Director I get to observe the stress
and strain that many experience. I feel for them and share their emotions,
both positive and negative. The contestant that is unable to face his peers
after a disaster day deserves our sympathy more than our criticism.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, the guys that step up and fill those extra
judging slots are the heroes of the day. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>John Ferrell <BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></DIV>
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<A title=rickwallace45@hotmail.com
href="mailto:rickwallace45@hotmail.com">Rick Wallace</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Nats Judging Rebate</DIV>
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<P>I don't like the idea of a mandatory $50 judging performance bond for our
National contest... </P>
<P>Don't see how to mitigate further against a guy forgetting a judging
assignment, especially given the great info packets that we received - it
was all there. Five minutes finding your name on the sheets and marking them
up and you knew where and when to be there!</P>
<P>Given a mandatory sign in at the Farm House on arrival in
Muncie, and a mandatory pilot's meeting Sunday night, it's hard to see
how a no-show should have been a surprise on Monday morning. Seems there
were lots of opportunities to count noses before Monday dawn...</P>
<P>Maybe a getting a list of those who didn't sign in before pilot's
meeting// and during the meeting ID'ing those pilots who didn't
go by the farm house (can't be many - call their names at the pilot meeting
to see if they're there?) , and confirm Monday's judging assignments (either
by calling names and getting responses or by a posted list with a place for
the assigned judge to initial...?) </P>
<P>And... this way, while the pilot meeting is still going on, there's max
opportunity to ID a replacement judge. </P>
<P>My $0.02...<BR>Rick Wallace <BR>AMA L727<BR>NSRCA 2972<BR><BR>>-----
Original Message -----<BR>>From: Ron Van Putte
<vanputte@cox.net><BR>>Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:33
am<BR>>Subject: Nats Judging Rebate<BR>><BR>> > Last week at the
Nats, I had a talk with Nats event director, Dave<BR>> > Guerin about
judging no-shows. On the very first morning, Dave<BR>> >
had at<BR>> > least three no-shows (F3A pilots who were supposed to
judge the<BR>> > Master<BR>> > class). You can
imagine the frustration of trying to reschedule<BR>> > pilots<BR>>
> to cover for them, not to mention the delay in getting the
events<BR>> > started. This was not an isolated
case. It happened over and<BR>> > over<BR>> > during
the week. Some just forgot when they were supposed to<BR>>
> judge.<BR>> > There were even some who were scheduled to judge on
the third day,<BR>> > who<BR>> > decided to leave after two days
and didn't tell anyone.<BR>> ><BR>> > We discussed having a "$50
judging rebate". It would work like<BR>> > this:<BR>>
> In addition to the normal entry fees, $50 would be
collected. If<BR>> > a<BR>> > pilot showed up to
perform his scheduled judging session, he'd get<BR>> > a<BR>> >
$50 rebate. If a pilot didn't show up to perform his
scheduled<BR>> > judging<BR>> > session, the replacement judge
would get the $50. BTW, the normal<BR>> > stipend for
pilots who perform extra judging sessions is $30.<BR>> >
Comments?<BR>> ><BR>> > Ron Van Putte<BR>> ><BR>> >
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