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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My standard is that If I can't pick up the
fuselage, unaided, and get it out of the house, IT'S TOOO BIG! </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a really good Hanger-9 using a ZDZ80 twin
with four flights on it, that lives in the garage because of its size (Needs a
new home BTW)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The 2-M or 78-5/8" planes can be held vertical and
maneuvered through a doorway. Several doorways , in my case, to get them out of
the house.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then if my lovely assistant, Michelle, can't carry
it out to the runway, its a no-go as well.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We have a great class with the current AMA specs.
Long live irredentism!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=billglaze@triad.rr.com href="mailto:billglaze@triad.rr.com">Bill
Glaze</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:58
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Does Pattern competition
cost too much?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dave:<BR>Not that it means a lot to anybody, but I dropped out
of IMAC when the airplanes went on steroids. A 35% airplane is now a
less-than-standard size plane, (40% seems to be the norm) and requires much
more support equipment and a change of lifestyle, (ground transportation,
etc.) I find that I'm not interested enough to make the required
changes. And, as a top competitor said a while back: "you know, I
don't recall having back problems until I started flying Giant
Scale......"<BR>A 2 meter, plug-in wing airplane (maximum; I could get by
cheerfully with smaller) exactly suits my life style. <BR>Speaking for
me, only, if pattern required a large size airplane, I would probably go back
to IMAC (or drop out entirely) because I like many of the IMAC rules, and
definitely prefer the annual sequence changes, expressing sequences in Aresti,
etc. As I say, just my opinion, but you and I have discussed some of
these things before.<BR><BR>Bill Glaze<BR><BR>David Lockhart wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can picture the optimized 3m plane - it would
be a wonderful flying machine.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm having a harder time picturing the RV or
truck/trailer, and workshop/garage/house that would allow me to have such a
plane. Maybe I am the only one who would drop out of pattern if the
planes were 3 meters - but I think not - as I know plenty that dropped out
of pattern with each iterative escalation of the rules for pattern since the
late '80s.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=joddino@socal.rr.com
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<A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:34 PM</DIV>
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Does Pattern competition cost too much?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks to all who responded. There were
many good thoughts on why IMAC seems to be more attractive than pattern
these days. I don't think either group has a lock on being nicer
guys and putting on a better contest, it has to be something in the
formula. I like IMAC from the standpoint there is no weight limit
resulting in more rugged airplanes that require less maintenance.
The gas engines are more user friendly and provide excessive power without
a lot of engineering and expensive fuel. No one wins because they
have a better engine. Less emphasis on the box relaxes the
pilots. But probably the biggest thing they have going for them is
the fact that the larger airplanes are better at doing what we want to
do. The 40%ers fly huge maneuvers at what seems a low constant
speed with constant radii on top and bottom of very straight vertical
lines. They are much less susceptible to wind.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Having said all this I plan to get back into
pattern and the reason is I believe the electric power system will
overcome many of my current complaints about pattern. I also
agree that the arrival of many ARFs will be good for pattern. It
will be interesting to watch but I think pattern will be making a comeback
without any major changes in the rules and specs for the
airplanes. I'd still like to see an unlimited aerobatic model
airplane. Picture an optimized 3 meter pattern plane with a DA
150. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards, Jim O</FONT></DIV>
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