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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#000000> Buddy don't get me wrong here, you would think that the Nat's you should get the best, what I'm saying is the intermediate and advanced already have equal exposure to the judges, where as the master's and FAI doesn't thus the finals.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#000000> One other observation is that in intermediate and advanced seem to be more about winning than master and FAI you would think that there vying for a 60 million dollar endorsement deal, there not and they lose sight of the meeting old friends learning new things and improving.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#000000> Steve Maxwell</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 8/1/2005 8:52:19 AM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Scoring formula/ and observations</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 7/31/2005 10:04:05 PM Central Daylight Time, patternrules@earthlink.net writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>Buddy the biggest reason that they do finals in masters and FAI, is that they don't fly in front of the same judges <FONT color=#000000>unlike the Intermediate and advanced then you have the problem of finding more judges also according to the number of pilots you use in both classes, if you use 8 pilots and single flight lines and 3 rounds it wouldn't be over and all others would, if they use 2 flight lines then more judges just don't seem practical to me.</FONT>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#000000> No I don't fly advanced anymore for many reasons #1 because I feel like I have a short time to get as good as I can be at age 56, the last 3 years I have practiced the FAI pattern in the fall and feel I have learned much more than staying flying advanced, so now I only flying FAI not good at it but I learn something every time I fly, #2 I like the pattern changing every 2 years #3 not everyone and there brother have a say in what FAI do (less problems and headaches) #4 I never could get score down at the site 4 and from what I could see I was one of a few that was tring to emulate the FAI and Masters pilots, I proved this last year last day, by just doing fast rolls no finess at all just fast and stop my scores went up by 100 raw points I was told all years on site 4 that I was the only one that really ever showed good throttle management</FONT> <FONT color=#000000>but still no scores #5 if I'm going to be last I'd rather be last in FAI than last in advanced.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Steven Maxwell</DIV>
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<DIV>Steven</DIV>
<DIV>There are plenty of judges available to do what I suggest, even to the point of flying everyone in front of the same judges. The fact is that if you do this many will be required to judge two and some all three days. If people go to the Nat's to pick the best then they should be willing to do what is necessary to accomplish that. If they use the Nat's as a vacation and are not willing to do what is necessary to help assure that, then we will never know who is actually the best we will only know who in a mathematical probability most likely is the best, and given the fact that the best judges are not used every day on every flight line the mathematical probability is most likely not correct so why do we continue to settle for the possibility of allowing the worst of the best determine the winners. </DIV>
<DIV>If that is what we want, then I will get off of my soap box and shut my mouth.</DIV>
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