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<DIV>I agree more discussions Judges Schools notes and videos to help with judging. Something that needs to be done for sure. </DIV>
<DIV>I know you mentioned we should try and certify all our pilots but </DIV>
<DIV> has any one considered judges training (updates) for-- retired pattern pilots.- Pilots who enjoy pattern but for one reason or the other decided not to fly pattern anymore.</DIV>
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<DIV>A team of judges from each District but ONE team. A group to draw from also for National events.</DIV>
<DIV>I know of a few such pilots that I think would want to work with this.</DIV>
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<DIV>The AMA has a treasury (Grant?) NSRCA has a treasury. Perhaps pilots would agree to pay a small fee towards judges expense.(help with it anyway)</DIV>
<DIV>Perhaps have a fund and have fundraisers etc.</DIV>
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<DIV>An official judges team We could have Shirts, certification and help with expenses.</DIV>
<DIV>A bit of team support!</DIV>
<DIV>IF WE cannot pay them we might STILL find a team we could put together that are not flying pattern but did at one time. We still could provide a team with JUDGES shirts. We could start there and see what happens</DIV>
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<DIV> Problem is we could end up getting these pilots back into flying (recruit more x pattern pilots ;-)</DIV>
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<DIV> We still can train and recruit additional judges. Many pilots would like to attend events but they do not fly anymore.</DIV>
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<DIV>Pilots enjoy pattern and many would still like to be involved even if they are not flying.</DIV>
<DIV>Judges training and updates for all. IF they are trained and we keep in contact with them they can judge our events.</DIV>
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<DIV> We still could use contestant judges if we need to.</DIV>
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<DIV> However I do not think contestant judging works in general. To fly all day then sit out in the sun and then try and sort out the mess of your friends and competitors flight. Half the time the pilots are waiting to fly on the next line.</DIV>
<DIV> Its not fair to any one. We should think about building on team judges (non flying pattern) this will take time but it can be done.</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 8/1/2005 3:16:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, </DIV>
<DIV>nsrca@shinymetalass.com w<FONT face=Arial><BR><BR>> The only rational solution I can see is to upgrade our judge training <BR>> sessions to more meaningful discussions on how to judge. Most of the <BR>> judge training sessions I've attended were more geared to getting <BR>> experienced pilot/judges recertified than in training newbies how to <BR>> judge.<BR><BR>Last fall during a typically spirited list discussion of how a<BR>particular maneuver should be flown and judged, video captures of the<BR>maneuver being flown on a simulator were very helpful in reaching<BR>consensus and illustrating the finer points of the discussion.<BR><BR>Creating these little video clips could really go a long way<BR>towards standardizing our training regimen as well as easing the<BR>shortage of qualified trainers and classes. If you're rolling your<BR>eyes, I'm not suggesting a full blown, broadcast ready video series. <BR>Taking things one step and class at a time, how about a clip of each<BR>maneuver flown properly along with clips of two common mistakes. For<BR>example, a clip of a proper loop along with clips of an egg shaped loop<BR>and of a figure nine with mismatched entry and exit altitudes. Each<BR>clip could be accompanied by a brief note explaining what to look for,<BR>and in the case of incorrect maneuvers what the appropriate downgrade<BR>would be and how it was arrived at. When the sequences are broken down<BR>into their elemental maneuvers, there really aren't that many of them.<BR><BR>Initially we could just render the clips to low bandwidth .avi files and<BR>post them on-line. As the clips are created for all the maneuvers in a<BR>given sequence, they could easily be integrated into a presentation for<BR>club training or personal use (like the IMAC power point). Once the<BR>initial library of clips is built, additional commonly seen or<BR>particularly controversial mistakes could easily be added. If we stick<BR>with the electronic format, it would be trivial keep the material<BR>current by slipping fresh clips in to illustrate new interpretations or<BR>better quality captures. As the material evolves, we could also include<BR>tips on the techniques of judging - things like counting point<BR>downgrades with your fingers to make life easier on your memory (and<BR>your scribe) or making sure you spend a minute briefing a new scribe so<BR>they understand how you want to work with them. <BR><BR>Our calling cards are a far cry from training material for<BR>beginners, and the training material I've been able to find on my own<BR>hasn't kept up with the current sequences. If we want pattern to grow,<BR>folks who are interested need to be able to get started on the learning<BR>process themselves. Having a flying buddy who is into pattern is SUPER,<BR>but for many/most beginners it is not a reality.<BR><BR>Making our training material consistent and widely available will help<BR>pattern on all kinds of levels - from getting new blood into the<BR>addiction, to increasing the pool of good judges, to even allowing us<BR>more time to practice since we won't spend hours squabbling over<BR>minutia. Ok, maybe that last one was a stretch, but you get the idea.<BR><BR>I've got a busy young family and a slow computer at home, but I can<BR>spare a few hours a week and I'm committed to this even if it ends up<BR>being only for my own education and improvement. If you are interested<BR>in contributing or even just watching the progress, I've set up a<BR>mailing list called NSRCA-education at:<BR><BR>http://lists.f3a.us/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-education/<BR><BR>Naturally I'm hoping that folks more talented and experienced than I<BR>will chime in with video clips and scoring opinions, but even if it's<BR>just me at least I'll be better off for it (and I'll have something<BR>productive to do while waiting for the glue to dry this building<BR>season).<BR><BR>Quoting a bumper sticker I spotted recently, "Stop bitching and start a<BR>revolution!"<BR><BR>-- <BR>Tom<BR><BR>_____________________________________________________________________<BR><BR> | , | Tom Simes<BR>---------(@)--------- AMA 230068<BR> --|-- NSRCA 3830<BR> ' nsrca@shinymetalass.com<BR>=================================================<BR>To access the email archives for this list, go to<BR>http://lists.f3a.us/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/<BR>To be removed from this list, go to http://www.nsrca.org/discussionA.htm<BR>and follow the instructions.<BR><BR>List members email returned for mailbox full will be removed from the list.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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