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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Describe a deep snap and a shallow snap - then know
that both are OK.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Off to Sayre, while you all "snap" at teach other
:-) (VBG)</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=akfai@gci.net href="mailto:akfai@gci.net">Andre Bouchard</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 05, 2005 11:34
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Judging Snaps</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I tend to agree.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In some cases it seems the amount of break
is being judged--too little an it is a zero. The break can be very
slight or considerable and the snap can be a true snap in either case.
It depends on the airplane set-up, design, attitude (level, upline or downline
snap), and entry speed.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The snap is the maneuver most open to
interpretation by the judge. While it is up to the pilot to demonstrate the
elements of a maneuver, the pilot should not be obligated to fly to the judges
interpretation of the maneuver (i.e., someone's interpretation of "noticeable
break"--define noticeable, please).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Andre</FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=dflynt@verizon.net href="mailto:dflynt@verizon.net">David Flynt</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:04
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Judging Snaps</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have always judged snaps with a simple rule
-- if it is not a barrel role, and if the tail describes a helix or cone,
then the plane must be stalled, and therefore it is a snap. I have
never downgraded because the plane is set up with a lot of aileron, so long
as the tail wags, and so long as the nose and tail describe opposing
helixes. I don't see any reference to how fast or slow the plane rolls
with regard to downgrades. To me, a pilot is free (and smart) to set
up their plane such that it loses as little heading as possible in a
snap. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Am I completely mistaken on this? A
barrel roll is easy to detect. An axial roll is easy to detect.
If it is not a barrel roll, and not an axial roll, then it must be a valid
snap, even if it is subtle and the plane is not buried deeply in a
snap. At least that is my current understanding.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll admit that I don't really understand
the degree at which the plane must "break" in the direction of
snap. Who came up with that idea? What really does that mean,
and how do you measure it? "the nose of the fuselage should show a
definite break in the direction of the snap". Ok, what is
definite? At what point exactly must the aircraft become
stalled? It takes time for the control surfaces to deflect. It
does not happen instantaneously. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think the maneuver is over described and over
analyzed. Its a "rapid autorotation in the pitch, yaw, and roll axes
of flight in a stalled wing attitude." That should be good enough to
judge it. If not, maybe use my definition of judging it.
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Until I know what a "definite break" is,
that's what I am going to do.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David
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