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<DIV>Thanks Georgie</DIV>
<DIV>Just an effort to get people to honestly address the problem areas in
our system and think of ways to eliminate or reduce them. It would
sure be great to hear how good the judging was at a contest instead of the
many many post's about all the reasons for possible errors.</DIV>
<DIV>Buddy </DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 8/6/2005 8:04:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
geobet@gis.net writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#8000ff size=2>Awesome
Buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<P>BUDDYonRC@aol.com wrote:
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color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1> I believe that the present quality of
judging has / is improving except in some areas that inject a measure of
personal opinion driven by errors in interpretation and definition that tend
to magnify the error factor in contest scores.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>It seems to me that the
controversy about score differences was escalated when, a few years ago
people complained about weather snaps and spins being performed by FAI
pilots were to fast and the question arose as to weather they were not
actually doing a snap or just a fast roll. Much emphasis was placed on a
judging criteria to determine the correct methods to assure that those
particular maneuvers were judged correctly.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>Due to the human factor,
inconsistencies filtered down to all classes and since most of the snap
maneuvers are high K-factor this fact has resulted in skewing scores to the
point where the ability due to personal opinion for some
judges to accurately distinguish the correctly performed maneuver is
resulting in an error factor which decreases the probability of selecting
the proper results in a contest.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>This leads me to believe that the descriptions
of actual performance requirements is much better than the ability to judge
them correctly in many cases and makes me wonder if descriptions which fall
in this area are actually an obstacle that leads to a worse situation when
our goal is to determine the best pilot.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1> Two choices exist to
minimize our situation, 1. Eliminate the problem maneuvers. The AMA rule
description is somewhat confusing at best and in fact incorrect or
misleading if taken literally I believe the FAI rules provide a much better
description ("At the start of a snap-roll, the fuselage attitude must show a
definite break and separation from the flight path, before the rotation is
started." ) instead of the AMA rule which says (" Since the maneuver is
defined as a stall maneuver (induced by a rapid stall of the wing induced by
a change in pitch attitude"), <U>The nose of the fuselage should show a
definite break from the flight path in the direction of the snap while the
track closely maintains the flight path. </U></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>In reality the nose and the
tail should show a definite break in attitude (the angle of the model in
relation to the flight path) from the flight path.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>I think wording of the AMA rule
overlooking this reality is a primary cause which results in many of the
errors in scoring and in fact in relation to less experienced judges
actually foster it.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>2. Make an all out effort to correct the
description and judge training in this area.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>Many newly trained judges
actually award a higher score for a rapid barrel roll than they do for a
well done snap that is done at a higher speed and actually zero many if them
incorrectly.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT
size=-1>Likewise another area which results in large point spread errors
with less experienced judges is their lack of firmiluarity with the
geometric requirements of the maneuvers.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>Spin entry is another problem
area that must be addressed that is also a culprit that in many cases is
judged incorrectly.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>We have a ways to go guys but the effort will be
rewarded, look where we were a few years ago and I believe you will agree we
have come a long way toward improving the system.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>Just a few of my thoughts and a
lot of rambling on in an effort to get you to thinking of solutions and the
means to an end.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#8000ff><FONT size=-1>Buddy</FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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