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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chuck (& all)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would submit that most (probably all) of the BOD
are reading this list and seeing the discussions presented here. (Which,
by the way, are most productive and imaginative.) I think the idea of a
combined IMAC/Pattern meet is a good one. Not toward changing anybody's
mind about the other discipline, but simply to take the good ideas that would
cross over and could be utilized by both.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A good place to start with this kind of an
interdisciplinary meet would be with a club that already has conducted both
types of meets, and has enthusiastic backers of both kinds of flying. Some
contestants might come out of the woodwork who all along have been enthusiasts
for both types of contests. I would guess that, if a satisfactory format
could be presented, that we might just get a good turnout. Anybody know
such a club that would be willing to take a chance on it? I'd dust off the
Midwest Extra/Moki 2.1 and do both myself.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As a matter of possible interest to this group,
when I had attended a couple of Bob Richard's Pattern Clinics, and been mentored
by John Ferrell, I began to get interested in Pattern. (After a competition
lapse of may years.) When I asked (not the two gentlemen mentioned)
about joining the NSRCA, it was referred to not as joining the NSRCA, but
as "subscribing to the K-Factor." In other words, the K-Factor was
seemingly the major, if not the only, benefit. Afterward I found, of
course, that there were many other reasons, but that was the single one that
seemed to be the magnet. I suppose that non-members could be asked to (or
permitted to) get the K-Factor, but since it is our major expense, it would
probably cost nearly as much as a full membership. Would that work for us,
or against us? A good K-Factor, it seems to me, would mitigate toward
keeping members, but just how effective is it in keeping the members
interest, and more to the point, how effective as a stand alone item would it be
in stimulating interest? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill Glaze</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=chochhalter@direcway.com href="mailto:chochhalter@direcway.com">Chuck
Hochhalter</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 18, 2005 12:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Growing pattern</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So how do we go about
taking these ideas to the Board etc? <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Through the District VP’s or is there a
time when the Board meets to discuss things of this nature that the members
have concerns about?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Issues such as the
K-<SPAN class=GramE>Factor(</SPAN>during contest months only maybe Mar-Oct),
website design, advertising with money saved by shutting down the KF during
winter building months? <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just trying to keep
these ideas we are having headed to those who make the
decisions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chuck<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Keith Hoard<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, November 18, 2005 11:10
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
RE: Growing pattern</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would
heartily second that. I can see no reason to keep the K-Factor to
ourselves. The SPA doesn’t do that; you can download their newsletter
for free. Honestly guys, the K-Factor isn’t crude oil.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Set it
free!!!!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Keith L.
Hoard<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><st1:place st="on"><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cordova,
</SPAN></FONT><st1:State st="on"><FONT face=Arial color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">TN</SPAN></FONT></st1:State></st1:place><FONT
face=Arial color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">khoard@midsouth.rr.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>THERUPMAN@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, November 18, 2005 11:05
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: Growing pattern</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm answering my own post here. To
me the K-FACTOR is a very positive publication, while this LIST is mainly
"our dirty laundry"and best kept in the
closet.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bob
Ruppel<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>