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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Milwakee</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> is using <span class=SpellE>lith</span> ions now<span class=GramE>..</span>
18v you will see them this month at home depot I think.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>vicenterc@comcast.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 18, 2005
1:49 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> discussion@nsrca.org;
discussion@nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Gray E Fowler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Discussion List
(Batteries)</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am waiting until Li-Ions hit the power tool market.
When that happens I am sure that the battery price will go down to be
competitive with glow fuel. Charging and discharging issues would be
resolved.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>There is another market there that could help a
lot. I work for Johnson Controls. The automotive division is
developing Li-Ion batteries for the hybrid vehicles. I am trying to get
sponsored but not sure if I can justify. However, I will keep trying to
get some free batteries. I hope that size and weight are good for our
models.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vicente<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>-------------- Original message -------------- <br>
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</span></font><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:sans-serif'>Richard</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>I
am not a battery expert, but like everyone else on the list that does not stop
me from having an opinion about batteries.</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>First,
electric airplanes do not exactly drive the battery market,......even if 50% of
the FAI finalists use them. No other applications </span></font><br>
<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>that
I am aware of uses these batteries in the manner that we attempt, which is that
massive current draw. What electric planes do </span></font><br>
<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>to
batteries is damaging, as demonstrated by your 25 flights. </span></font>
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<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>I
would not expect the battery market to develop a battery capable of long life
and extreme current draw since no one else uses </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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