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<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Lance,
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Auto-air
colors is not fuel proof, but the finish can be made fuel proof with a
polyurethane clear coat.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I have not
used this for a pattern plane, but for foamies. It has a few downsides.
For example it does not dry fast, and some of the colors require heat to
dry. I could not get this stuff to atomize as well as the rc flying colors
that Radio South sells, and it definately does not stick as well (masking can be
very frustrating). However, I think with experience, the right reducer
(not water) and absolute clean 600 grit prepped surface, it will stick
well enough for our needs. I used it straight without reducer, but the
manufacturer sells a reducer for this. I think that may make it a little
toxic, not really sure. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>The upsides
to this product is that there are so many nice colors, very small
quantities can be purchased, and it is safe enough to use with a dust
mask. The isocyanates in the two-part clear on the other
hand is quite dangerous. So if you are going to be exposed, then it does
not really matter that the colors are safe. I also wonder whether it is
truly much lighter than say a base coat clear coat polyurethane, or even a
single stage paint such as the Radio South paint. I recently covered a 2m
Supreme with less than 3 ounces of total paint of the RC flying colors, and that
included a clear coat over the colors. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>It is
interesting stuff, but I think I would choose a polyurethane because it performs
so well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>You should
see the web site. The example projects are impressive. <A
href="http://www.autoaircolors.com/">http://www.autoaircolors.com/</A>
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>David</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786304004-12122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf
Of </B>Lance Van Nostrand<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 11, 2005 8:28
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Finishing<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>So this stuff is fuel proof? Does it mix with a
hardener or just cure with heat and water evaportation? I'm skeptical
that something that doesn't crosslink can be fuel proof, but maybe this stuff
actually cures into polymer chains like polyU glue?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Tom.Koenig@actewagl.com.au
href="mailto:Tom.Koenig@actewagl.com.au">Koenig, Tom</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Finishing</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=518443201-12122005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff
size=3>Steve/all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=518443201-12122005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=518443201-12122005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff
size=3>I have clear coated a few planes for a friend of mine who uses the
createx stuff. I just used an automotive two pack clear coat. It comes up ok
but is very dependent on the skill of the 'createx' applicator! If it is
applied to dry and the prep work sucks-no amount of clear coat will make it
look good.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=518443201-12122005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff
size=3>Infact I was blamed for the paint job!!! Nowadays-he takes his planes
to a professional auto shop-and they charge him a packet of money with the
same result. Works for me as its less possible exposure to the nasty
stuff.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=518443201-12122005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff
size=3>I also believe there may be some adhesion problems with createx if
not applied correctly.His stuff I've seen flake off ( i.e.; prep
work!!!)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=518443201-12122005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff
size=3>My recommendation is to use the 'clear over base' system and just
minimize the clear as it now no longer serves as a fuel proofing
agent.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=518443201-12122005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff
size=3>Tom</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Steven Maxwell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 12 December 2005
12:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
Finishing<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV> Nat over the last couple of years I have been playing with
Createx Auto Airs <A
href="http://www.autoaircolors.com/">http://www.autoaircolors.com/</A> they
are water base paints that is used for airbrushing although they do need a
clear coat to bring to a shine. They are extremely light and easy to use
they just look dull as applied. They can be mixed and matched to anything
and have 128 colors to choose from, theres a dealer you'll find on there
dealer page called Dixie Art Supply in New Orleans <A
href="http://www.dixieart.com/CreatexAutoAir.html">http://www.dixieart.com/CreatexAutoAir.html</A> I
have only cleared with Lustre Kote which is not recomended by them, but
maybe for the electrics you won't need the clear. Good luck.</DIV>
<DIV> Steve Maxwell</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=natpenton@centurytel.net
href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net">Nat Penton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 12/11/2005 10:28:25 PM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Finishing</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't know whether to use
polyurethane, latex, watercolor or crayola. These electrics present all
kinds of problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>
Nat</FONT></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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