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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=531184516-26122005>I love
my Shockflyer F3A and I had over 100 flights on each of my first 2. The
third one is only waiting to take over number 2 when it's time. This is the best
monoplane foamy I have tried for smooth and precision flying indoor or
outdoor. In high wind, you could knife edge or roll stationnary in front of you.
It would also do most of the 3D stuff but it won't really tumble well. The Yak
of the same generation is more "sensitive" and less smooth for my taste, more 3D
than precision.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=531184516-26122005>It's
important to keep them light. The AXI 2204 on 2S or 3S 300-500 mha is what I
prefer for indoor on these planes, and a 3S700 for outdour. They
should be less than 7oz when new so after the many repairs that will happen,
they are still below 8oz. When they get heavy (with larger motor and battery)
they fly very differently and not as well.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=531184516-26122005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=531184516-26122005>I got mine from </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><A
href="http://www.icare-rc.com/">http://www.icare-rc.com/</A><SPAN
class=531184516-26122005></SPAN><SPAN class=531184516-26122005> and you
could get them from many places like</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=531184516-26122005>
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><A
href="http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlineshop/usa/index.php">http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlineshop/usa/index.php</A> <SPAN
class=531184516-26122005>and </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.hobby-lobby.com/3d-planes.htm">http://www.hobby-lobby.com/3d-planes.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=531184516-26122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Xavier</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>jguinn<BR><B>Sent:</B> December 26, 2005 11:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Foamy for pattern
practice<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Were can you find this web site to buy these
planes</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jpavlick@idseng.com href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">John
Pavlick</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">NSRCA Discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:06
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Foamy
for pattern practice</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=590235005-25122005>Colin,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=590235005-25122005> Well, I love my Ikarus F3a Shock-Flyer.
We as pattern pilots are very picky so you will have to decide for yourself.
Mine is set up with an AXI 2204/54, APC 8x3.8 S.F., T.P. 3S 480 LiPO's, Berg
4-channel Rx and 3 Hitec HS-55's. AUW is 6.9 oz. Not super light but OK for
indoor/ outdoor work. I haven't flown this in any serious wind yet, but my
old 9 oz. Shocky Super-Star held up OK so I'm thinking this won't be too
bad. As far as flight characteristics: almost NO roll or pitch
coupling.</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=590235005-25122005></SPAN><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=590235005-25122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> I'd have to say it's pretty close to a full-size pattern
plane if you keep in mind it's made out of foam and only weighs 7 oz. You
can do precision maneuvers with it - the wings don't flex and the fuselage
doesn't twist. It grooves nicely and it's not twitchy like some of the
"flexible flyers" made for the 3D wannabes. The new Shockies are much
stronger than the older ones and easier to build straight. If you already
have a motor and some micro radio gear it will only cost you about $50.00
U.S. to try one for yourself. I don't think you'll be
disappointed.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR> </FONT>
</P></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=590235005-25122005> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>colin
chariandy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Foamy for pattern
practice<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV id=RTEContent>Hi all</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm looking for a small (less than 10oz) foamy for pattern practise
and fun while there's snow on the ground. What have the guys in group
used? I've tried rcu for opinions and found it impossible to get any
consensus...there are as many negatives as positives for every aircraft
discussed.</DIV>
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<DIV>I have a GP Turmoil however it flys more like a kite than a precision
aircraft. I'm looking for something that has been designed for more than
just hovering/3D.</DIV>
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<DIV>Any help will be appreciated.</DIV>
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<DIV>Colin</DIV>
<DIV>Ontario, CA.</DIV>
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