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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I just flew my friends Ikarus Nemesis,
<A
href="http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlineshop/usa/index.php?sid=e43424afbcce4c6bc017d6594df789a9&cl=details&cnid=265&anid=5831">http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlineshop/usa/index.php?sid=e43424afbcce4c6bc017d6594df789a9&cl=details&cnid=265&anid=5831</A> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and I could not believe how precise it flew.
It has no 3D capabilities on stock flight control set up but as far as presicion
I think it is the best one of all the Shock-Flyers. I have or flown all the
Shock flyers with the exeption of the Yak 54 and the SU 27.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=xavier.mouraux@sympatico.ca
href="mailto:xavier.mouraux@sympatico.ca">Anne et Xavier</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 26, 2005 11:59
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Foamy for
pattern practice</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=531184516-26122005>I
love my Shockflyer F3A and I had over 100 flights on each of my first 2.
The third one is only waiting to take over number 2 when it's time. This is
the best monoplane foamy I have tried for smooth and precision flying
indoor or outdoor. In high wind, you could knife edge or roll stationnary in
front of you. It would also do most of the 3D stuff but it won't really tumble
well. The Yak of the same generation is more "sensitive" and less smooth for
my taste, more 3D than precision.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=531184516-26122005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=531184516-26122005>It's
important to keep them light. The AXI 2204 on 2S or 3S 300-500 mha is what I
prefer for indoor on these planes, and a 3S700 for outdour. They
should be less than 7oz when new so after the many repairs that will happen,
they are still below 8oz. When they get heavy (with larger motor and battery)
they fly very differently and not as well.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=531184516-26122005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=531184516-26122005>I got mine from </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><A
href="http://www.icare-rc.com/">http://www.icare-rc.com/</A><SPAN
class=531184516-26122005></SPAN><SPAN class=531184516-26122005> and you
could get them from many places like</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=531184516-26122005>
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><A
href="http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlineshop/usa/index.php">http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlineshop/usa/index.php</A> <SPAN
class=531184516-26122005>and </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.hobby-lobby.com/3d-planes.htm">http://www.hobby-lobby.com/3d-planes.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531184516-26122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Xavier</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>jguinn<BR><B>Sent:</B> December 26, 2005 11:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Foamy for pattern
practice<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Were can you find this web site to buy these
planes</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jpavlick@idseng.com href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">John
Pavlick</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">NSRCA Discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:06
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Foamy
for pattern practice</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=590235005-25122005>Colin,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=590235005-25122005> Well, I love my Ikarus F3a
Shock-Flyer. We as pattern pilots are very picky so you will have to
decide for yourself. Mine is set up with an AXI 2204/54, APC 8x3.8 S.F.,
T.P. 3S 480 LiPO's, Berg 4-channel Rx and 3 Hitec HS-55's. AUW is 6.9 oz.
Not super light but OK for indoor/ outdoor work. I haven't flown this in
any serious wind yet, but my old 9 oz. Shocky Super-Star held up OK so I'm
thinking this won't be too bad. As far as flight characteristics:
almost NO roll or pitch coupling.</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
class=590235005-25122005></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=590235005-25122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> I'd have to
say it's pretty close to a full-size pattern plane if you keep in mind
it's made out of foam and only weighs 7 oz. You can do precision maneuvers
with it - the wings don't flex and the fuselage doesn't twist. It grooves
nicely and it's not twitchy like some of the "flexible flyers" made for
the 3D wannabes. The new Shockies are much stronger than the older ones
and easier to build straight. If you already have a motor and some micro
radio gear it will only cost you about $50.00 U.S. to try one for
yourself. I don't think you'll be
disappointed.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=590235005-25122005>
<P><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR> </FONT>
</P></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=590235005-25122005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=590235005-25122005> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>colin
chariandy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:07
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[NSRCA-discussion] Foamy for pattern practice<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV id=RTEContent>Hi all</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm looking for a small (less than 10oz) foamy for pattern practise
and fun while there's snow on the ground. What have the guys in group
used? I've tried rcu for opinions and found it impossible to get any
consensus...there are as many negatives as positives for every aircraft
discussed.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have a GP Turmoil however it flys more like a kite than a
precision aircraft. I'm looking for something that has been designed for
more than just hovering/3D.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Any help will be appreciated.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Colin</DIV>
<DIV>Ontario, CA.</DIV>
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