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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tried an E-Flite Mini Ultra
Stick with a 400 inrunner today.</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>
Awesome, but definitely not an indoor aircraft! Flew the whole flight on 25 –
50 % power. A foamie killer! <span class=GramE>Needs a slight mod to the mount
to kill harmonic vibes.</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I finally got the F3A flying today <span class=GramE>(
no</span> snow, no wind, no rain). With a Kokam 3S 340 pack I am way short
of power. I'll try a 3S 500 next. Also, the aft cg limit in the manual
(60mm from LE) is still very nose heavy. What's the best cg position for
pattern?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Colin.<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>colin chariandy
<cchariandy@yahoo.ca></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks to all for the advice. F3A Shock flyer it is!!
I've already place the order.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Colin.<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>John Pavlick
<jpavlick@idseng.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> Hobby Lobby has
them: <a href="http://www.hobby-lobby.com/">http://www.hobby-lobby.com</a>
along with AXI motors and everything else you might need. They're in the
electric RC airplanes section. You can also check out the Ikarus web-site for
more details: <a href="http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlineshop/usa/index.php">http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlineshop/usa/index.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Ikarus also makes the
Aerofly Pro Deluxe simulator that a lot of us are using. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>John Pavlick<br>
<a href="http://www.idseng.com/" target="_blank">http://www.idseng.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>jguinn<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 26, 2005
11:33 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Foamy for pattern practice<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:blue;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> <a
href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com" title="jpavlick@idseng.com">John Pavlick</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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2005 12:06 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> RE: [NSRCA-discussion]
Foamy for pattern practice<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> Well, I love
my Ikarus F3a Shock-Flyer. We as pattern pilots are very picky so you will have
to decide for yourself. Mine is set up with an AXI 2204/54, APC 8x3.8 S.F.,
T.P. 3S 480 LiPO's, Berg 4-channel Rx and 3 Hitec HS-55's. AUW is 6.9 oz. Not
super light but OK for indoor/ outdoor work. I haven't flown this in any
serious wind yet, but my old 9 oz. Shocky Super-Star held up OK so I'm thinking
this won't be too bad. As far as flight characteristics: almost NO roll or
pitch coupling. I'd have to say it's pretty close to a full-size pattern
plane if you keep in mind it's made out of foam and only weighs 7 oz. You can
do precision maneuvers with it - the wings don't flex and the fuselag! e
doesn't twist. It grooves nicely and it's not twitchy like some of the
"flexible flyers" made for the 3D wannabes. The new Shockies are much
stronger than the older ones and easier to build straight. If you already have
a motor and some micro radio gear it will only cost you about $50.00 U.S. to
try one for yourself. I don't think you'll be disappointed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>John
Pavlick<br>
<a href="http://www.idseng.com/" target="_blank">http://www.idseng.com</a><br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>colin chariandy<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday,! December 24, 2005
7:07 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> discussion@nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion] Foamy
for pattern practice<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I'm looking for a small
(less than 10oz) foamy for pattern practise and fun while there's snow on the
ground. What have the guys in group used? I've tried rcu for opinions and found
it impossible to get any consensus...there are as many negatives as positives
for every aircraft discussed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I have a GP Turmoil
however it flys more like a kite than a precision aircraft. I'm looking for
something that has been designed for more than just hovering/3D.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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