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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry Voth</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=gfowler@raytheon.com href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com">Gray E
Fowler</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:45
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [NSRCA-discussion] glow plug
wages???</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Geeze...thats alot of
questions for only 20 million people....I will try to answer, but I must warn
you that my answers may be tainted by my "unbiased" opinion.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>Before I continue, I must say that I am convinced that
if an Aussie were to be suddenly awoken in the middle of the night, and asked
a question, he would speak in an accent similar to that of an American from
KANSAS.......Is this true?</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>We have
a "miminum" wage..that I think is about $5.50/hour. Very few earn this because
you really cannot survive on it. Even full time McDonalds employees and
illegal aliens make more, but part time kids etc. make it. In 1977 I washed
dishes in High School at $2.10/hour and fuel cost $7.50/gallon. Today fuel
cost $12/gallon (sport)-I can now better afford fuel!</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>Reality is most low income jobs are filled by non
Americans because Americans do not want those jobs. Clothes, shoes, and
RC radios cannot be assembled in the USA because companies cannot compete
paying a unionized high school graduate with 15 years experience $18/hr plus
medical benefits, when they can ship it to (INSERT COUNTRY OF PREFERENCE HERE)
for $5 day plus a tube of toothpaste.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>There is a "welfare" program (no job = government money) that has been
notoriously screwed up for years, and has undergone significant changes of
which I am not sure of other than it is probably still screwed up.</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>If you get layed off (sacked) then you
can collect "unemployment benefits" which is a limited insurance program,
which I think is maxed at at $250/week.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>Speaking of screwed up, we have a "Social Security" program to allow
people to retire, but only a fool my age would depend on this as it is about
to go inverted when you have 5 retired people supported by 1 active worker.
So to "fix" this problem they made the retirement age 67 in hopes all
those Baby-Boomer Hippies will succumb to an early LSD induced death to reduce
pay-outs. </FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Good wage in the US???
Depends on who you ask. Many make it on $35,000/year but I do not know
how. I would guess good to be $50-60,000/year.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>Taxes, social security etc eats of about 25-28% of your
income...some states more due to state tax (not in Texas). </FONT>
<BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>People who make $80-100,000 can live very
comfortably, but in the American way...it is never enough as is evident by the
USA ridiculous credit card debt. Those who make $100K/year have the HIGHEST
Credit card debt, many times $20-30K at 18% interest.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>BUT....Life in the USA is good.....and I can say with
impunity that we have the best SMART WEAPONS in the world so I advise you guys
to remain our friends....</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Composites
Engineering</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
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face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3>Not being an economist, I'm not sure
how all this works. But in Australia, I believe we have quite a reasonable
standard of living. We have ( in comparison) a tiny manufacturing base. But I
think our economy is largely resource driven ( mining, agriculture
etc).</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3>There are only
20 million of us-so that's not a huge economy! There are more of you guys in
one city!!!!!!</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3>Nearly everything here is imported-from
wherever we can get it. We usually export the raw materials and then buy back
the product...()&*(&*&^%^%$@!!@#</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3>We wood
chip the trees so that the Japanese can turn it into paper for
us-crazy!</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=blue size=3>As far as the modelling goes we pay premium dollar for
everything. A lot of the local hobby shops are simply held to ransom by some
importers/distributors- but everyone needs to make a buck I guess. You want
it-you pay!</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3>Which leads me to a question I have had
for a long time ( and one the boys here in my workshop often ponder about).
What is considered a good average wage in the U.S these days?? Are there
minimum conditions for you guys?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3>We have a reasonable welfare
system too, which I guess costs us taxpayers - but here in Australia I think
culturally- there is a minimum ( with everything) that we are prepared to put
up with.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=blue size=3>We call it a 'Fair Go far all' whereas our impression of
life in the US is 'Dog eat Dog where the Dollar rules all'?? Maybe we have
been watching too much Hollywood????</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3>Tom</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original
Message-----<B><BR>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gray E
Fowler<B><BR>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 11 January 2006 8:43 AM<B><BR>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<B><BR>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] glow plug
wages???<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue
size=3><BR>"Wow...we pay about $15 per OS F....</FONT><FONT size=3>
<BR> </FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3><BR>You're on
fairly good money Gray!!! Not sure how much per kW/H we pay though
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color=blue size=3><BR>Tom"</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3><BR>Tom-you are closer to Japan than we
are! Why the high cost of glow plugs?-almost makes one wanna go
electric-just kidding.</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Composites Engineering</FONT>
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