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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=370424400-11012006>Yeah,
what he said. That's pretty much the way it is. Like my Father says: "America is
<EM>Free </EM>- as long as you can afford it". I heard that Australia is kind of
like the way the USA was before it got so industrialized & over-populated.
Sounds like a great place to go for a long vacation ...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=370424400-11012006> </SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gray E
Fowler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [NSRCA-discussion] glow plug
wages???<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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face=sans-serif size=2>Geeze...thats alot of questions for only 20 million
people....I will try to answer, but I must warn you that my answers may be
tainted by my "unbiased" opinion.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>Before I continue, I must say that I am convinced that if an Aussie
were to be suddenly awoken in the middle of the night, and asked a question,
he would speak in an accent similar to that of an American from
KANSAS.......Is this true?</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>We have
a "miminum" wage..that I think is about $5.50/hour. Very few earn this because
you really cannot survive on it. Even full time McDonalds employees and
illegal aliens make more, but part time kids etc. make it. In 1977 I washed
dishes in High School at $2.10/hour and fuel cost $7.50/gallon. Today fuel
cost $12/gallon (sport)-I can now better afford fuel!</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>Reality is most low income jobs are filled by non
Americans because Americans do not want those jobs. Clothes, shoes, and
RC radios cannot be assembled in the USA because companies cannot compete
paying a unionized high school graduate with 15 years experience $18/hr plus
medical benefits, when they can ship it to (INSERT COUNTRY OF PREFERENCE HERE)
for $5 day plus a tube of toothpaste.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>There is a "welfare" program (no job = government money) that has been
notoriously screwed up for years, and has undergone significant changes of
which I am not sure of other than it is probably still screwed up.</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>If you get layed off (sacked) then you
can collect "unemployment benefits" which is a limited insurance program,
which I think is maxed at at $250/week.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>Speaking of screwed up, we have a "Social Security" program to allow
people to retire, but only a fool my age would depend on this as it is about
to go inverted when you have 5 retired people supported by 1 active worker.
So to "fix" this problem they made the retirement age 67 in hopes all
those Baby-Boomer Hippies will succumb to an early LSD induced death to reduce
pay-outs. </FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Good wage in the US???
Depends on who you ask. Many make it on $35,000/year but I do not know
how. I would guess good to be $50-60,000/year.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>Taxes, social security etc eats of about 25-28% of your
income...some states more due to state tax (not in Texas). </FONT>
<BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>People who make $80-100,000 can live very
comfortably, but in the American way...it is never enough as is evident by the
USA ridiculous credit card debt. Those who make $100K/year have the HIGHEST
Credit card debt, many times $20-30K at 18% interest.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>BUT....Life in the USA is good.....and I can say with
impunity that we have the best SMART WEAPONS in the world so I advise you guys
to remain our friends....</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Composites
Engineering</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
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face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>Not being an economist, I'm not sure how all this
works. But in Australia, I believe we have quite a reasonable standard of
living. We have ( in comparison) a tiny manufacturing base. But I think our
economy is largely resource driven ( mining, agriculture etc).</FONT>
<BR><FONT color=blue face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>There are only 20 million of
us-so that's not a huge economy! There are more of you guys in one
city!!!!!!</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>Nearly everything here is imported-from wherever
we can get it. We usually export the raw materials and then buy back the
product...()&*(&*&^%^%$@!!@#</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT>
<BR><FONT color=blue face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>We wood chip the trees so
that the Japanese can turn it into paper for us-crazy!</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT color=blue face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>As far
as the modelling goes we pay premium dollar for everything. A lot of the local
hobby shops are simply held to ransom by some importers/distributors- but
everyone needs to make a buck I guess. You want it-you pay!</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT color=blue face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>Which
leads me to a question I have had for a long time ( and one the boys here in
my workshop often ponder about). What is considered a good average wage in the
U.S these days?? Are there minimum conditions for you guys?</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT color=blue face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>We have
a reasonable welfare system too, which I guess costs us taxpayers - but here
in Australia I think culturally- there is a minimum ( with everything) that we
are prepared to put up with.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT
color=blue face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>We call it a 'Fair Go far all' whereas
our impression of life in the US is 'Dog eat Dog where the Dollar rules all'??
Maybe we have been watching too much Hollywood????</FONT> <BR><FONT
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size=3>Tom</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<B><BR>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gray E
Fowler<B><BR>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 11 January 2006 8:43 AM<B><BR>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<B><BR>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] glow plug
wages???<BR></FONT><BR><FONT color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"
size=3><BR>"Wow...we pay about $15 per OS F....</FONT><FONT size=3>
<BR> </FONT><FONT color=blue face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><BR>You're on
fairly good money Gray!!! Not sure how much per kW/H we pay though
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face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><BR>Tom"</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT
color=blue face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><BR>Tom-you are closer to Japan than we
are! Why the high cost of glow plugs?-almost makes one wanna go
electric-just kidding.</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Composites Engineering</FONT>
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